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MT: Keeping The Course

Posted on 9/4/14 at 10:01 am
Posted by RickAstley
Reno, Nevada
Member since May 2011
2001 posts
Posted on 9/4/14 at 10:01 am
One thing I have learned from this board (and I have been reassured from outside of the board) is to keep the course with investing. So far my investing career is 2 years old with a horizon of 30-40 years at least. Per the suggestions in investing planning, I have increased my contributions with each raise and held steady. On the downside, the money I once placed into savings has dipped to nil. This is where I am at and one thing I plan to focus on over the next few months when evaluating my situation for 2015.

The investing outlook for me over the next two years isn't as sunny as the last two due to a big change in my life, and some debt that was brought upon me. Even with the changes in lifestyle upcoming, I will continue to pay future RickAstley to maintain the best investing time period of my life. All in all I want to say thanks to the board for your help and I feel that I would not be where I am today without feedback and the countless threads posted across here.


For the MT, how are you doing on keeping the course? Has there been much success in your life to this point? What hardships have come up which made you stray from the investing path you defined?
Posted by OnTheBrink
TN
Member since Mar 2012
5418 posts
Posted on 9/4/14 at 10:19 am to
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All in all I want to say thanks to the board for your help and I feel that I would not be where I am today without feedback and the countless threads posted across here.


Totally agree! One of the best boards for Money talk I have found. Love the different opinions on pretty much everything that gets posted. Hard to find a thread where everyone agrees.

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For the MT, how are you doing on keeping the course?


The wife and I hit $100,000 earlier this year and are around $113,000 now in our Savings and Retirement accounts. It was a big milestone for us to hit, considering we have only been married for 6 years and that is pretty much when we started our path to financial freedom. She cares, but pretty much relies on me when it comes to saving and investing. I received a raise this year but I have kept my salary the same, as I have in years past. She also increased her contributions 1%. When I started my career some 8 years ago, I was putting $50/month into my 401k. That number is at $880/month today. If I had any piece of advice for the young ones on this board (31 myself, so I guess I am still young) is never quit putting money away as I did when first started. The market was tanking, the money I was putting in was quickly evaporating and it freaked me out, so I temporarily halted my contributions. The rest is history.

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Has there been much success in your life to this point?


Man, a question I have thought about a lot and I am conflicted on. I look around and feel like where we are is great. Combined salary of just shy of $100k, and have a little over that saved up. While I feel we are doing great judging by other around me, I wonder if we will ever be able to get to a million, retire comfortably, etc. I see numbers being thrown around here and other places that make me doubt just how good I think we are doing.

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What hardships have come up which made you stray from the investing path you defined?


Picked up a car note this year, but it hasn't really stopped our saving and investing. Just slowed it, if you will. Also, gave in and got my wife a privacy fence and we put a pergola on our back deck, which knocked our Savings down around $4,000. But hey, what is the point of having money if you don't spend it. And it made the wife happy which is always good!

BTW, great idea for a thread!
Posted by LSUtigerME
Walker, LA
Member since Oct 2012
3793 posts
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:08 pm to
I think I enjoy life a little more than most frugal MT posters. But I work to enjoy life. As long as I continue to save for my retirement, I'll get there.

I am lacking on my outside of 401k investments. I recently switched jobs, so right now my 401k match is low (increases over time). I have a Roth for myself, but need to open one for my wife. Also would like to open 529 for my son. My taxable investment account hasn't had any new contributions for a while.

I'm hoping to restablish my strategy once the new income settled out and savings get back to where I would like. Would love to have a Net Worth of >$500k at 30 ($250k now at 28).

Only obstacle would be another child. That's still up in the air. I'm content with one, wife is questionable. We'll see how that goes.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:11 pm to
quote:

I'm hoping to restablish my strategy once the new income settled out and savings get back to where I would like. Would love to have a Net Worth of >$500k at 30 ($250k now at 28).


500k by 30 would be incredible, and set you on the path to the future. Its pretty unrealistic goal, 250k is incredible.

I got great advice 20 years ago from my step father, never give yourself a raise. Every raise you get, save it and live on what you earned before. Its worked very well for me.

This year was the first time I gave myself a raise since 2008, I gave myself an extra $200/month in March. So far, I haven't used it.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 9/4/14 at 1:11 pm to
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I wonder if we will ever be able to get to a million,
You will. You'll have much more than that assuming no health setbacks or other such life changing events.
Posted by Chaplain
8,000,000 posts
Member since Nov 2009
1146 posts
Posted on 9/4/14 at 1:13 pm to
I'm in a similar position...we have around $125,400 in checking, savings, college savings, home equity, and retirement accounts. I'm 32 and she's 27. Not great but I feel like we're doing ok. I wish I would have start a little earlier as well.
This post was edited on 9/4/14 at 1:31 pm
Posted by OnTheBrink
TN
Member since Mar 2012
5418 posts
Posted on 9/4/14 at 2:30 pm to
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LSURussian


I appreciate that man!

And don't get me wrong, just cause negative thoughts creep into my head, doesn't mean we are not determined to reach it.
Posted by RickAstley
Reno, Nevada
Member since May 2011
2001 posts
Posted on 9/4/14 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

The market was tanking, the money I was putting in was quickly evaporating and it freaked me out, so I temporarily halted my contributions.


I've been fortunate to start while the market is climbing up. If it was steadily going down, I don't think I would have invested anything and just loaded down my savings. Neither are wrong (with regards to paying yourself), but at least now I have perspective on how to invest money into a Roth IRA, 401k and taxable accounts and an emergency fund to hang onto if the markets did dip.

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That number is at $880/month today. If I had any piece of advice for the young ones on this board (31 myself, so I guess I am still young) is never quit putting money away as I did when first started.


Congrats on the benchmark and keep it up! Does this include kids in the picture, or are kids perhaps on the horizon?

Good post btw
Posted by OnTheBrink
TN
Member since Mar 2012
5418 posts
Posted on 9/4/14 at 2:48 pm to
Thanks Rick, I appreciate the kind words!

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Does this include kids in the picture, or are kids perhaps on the horizon?


We have two kids, 10 and 5. Daycare is a drain monthly, anywhere between $800-$1,000 a month depending on how many Fridays there are, but it has gotten a little better since my smallest started school. Not wishing my kids younger years away at all, but I cannot wait until I cut the daycare off the payroll!

Recently, and again something I should have started earlier, I set up savings accounts for my kids at the local credit union. Whenever they get money, I make them put 15% into the account, since that is the number suggested by most as what it takes to retire. I tell them that is what my wife and I put in, so they should as well. I am hoping that by getting them into the habit early of paying themselves first, they will not be where I was when I started working.

I also bought my kids stocks. I was tired of getting 0.7% interest for the college money I was putting away, about $2,500 per kid and wanted to teach them about the market. My 10 year old (boy) is a huge gamer. Loves his 360. So, naturally I invested in MSFT for him. I show him periodically how much we started with and where it is at now, up 23%!

For my daughter who is 5, she loves chocolate and her "chockie milk" so I bought her HSY. She is still way to young to try to get the point across, but I made a little money on it and have since bought KO, which is up around 12%.

Both have paid off well so far, and have been a good lesson to my 10 year old. He thinks its cool that he has earned an extra share so far (DRIP) for doing nothing.

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I've been fortunate to start while the market is climbing up. If it was steadily going down, I don't think I would have invested anything and just loaded down my savings. Neither are wrong (with regards to paying yourself), but at least now I have perspective on how to invest money into a Roth IRA, 401k and taxable accounts and an emergency fund to hang onto if the markets did dip.


Man, I cannot tell you how frustrated I got when I was putting $50/month and getting a quarterly statement that showed my contributions of $150/quarter and my account value had dropped $175 for the quarter. I was completely ignorant to how the markets worked, the history of the markets, etc and hit a span when I just quit putting money in there. So stupid looking back.
This post was edited on 9/4/14 at 2:49 pm
Posted by RickAstley
Reno, Nevada
Member since May 2011
2001 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 10:11 am to
Props to you with managing the course with all of the responsibilities you have to maintain. Your post reassures me to keep an aggressive pace with saving/investing while children are not in the picture. I feel like I would need two jobs at least, if I had children in the picture.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89500 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 12:36 pm to
quote:

I'm hoping to restablish my strategy once the new income settled out and savings get back to where I would like. Would love to have a Net Worth of >$500k at 30 ($250k now at 28).


I would take solace in the fact that - you are a 1%, peer wise.

If you do not save another penny, don't touch what you've already pust aside ($250k) when you're 58, that will be $600k - at 63, it will be $750k, and at 70 years, the money you've already saved will be well over $1 million (these assume an average of 6% rate of return) - which can generate a six-figure income until the end of your life expectancy, or roughly $40k annual income, in perpetuity and leave the principal to your heirs.

Not lifestyles of the rich and famous, but wealthy in the sense of this represents financial security that 99% of your peers do not have.

So, keep saving and raising the bar for your self. You may not have to work until you die, like some of us have as plan b -
This post was edited on 9/5/14 at 12:38 pm
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18365 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 1:36 pm to
This thread is depressing me but also inspiring.

My wife and I are 30. We have $3k in an investment (Roth) I just opened up this week and $4k in savings. I'm just starting graduate school and she's a teacher. It kills me to think about how we both got a job right out of college and spent and spent and spent and spent until we had our first child and realized that the future really is coming.

So we're starting late, but I feel inspired by the fact that so much can be done if you just work at it. Learn and maneuver the market. Take advantage of deals. Actually be concerned with savings. It'll work out.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89500 posts
Posted on 9/6/14 at 2:37 pm to
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So we're starting late, but I feel inspired by the fact that so much can be done if you just work at it.


Better late than never (I was way later than you). I went from $3k to $60k in retirement savings in 4 1/2 years. I value my military retirement at roughly $600k - so, I will have gone from negative $250k in net worth to a positive $1.5 million in about 24 years, along my current glide path at right at $100k gross income.
Posted by LSUTOM07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
765 posts
Posted on 9/6/14 at 5:06 pm to
The S.O. and I are just starting out (both 23) so it seems like it will be an uphill climb for the next few years. She has $24k is student loans left to pay. We are currently paying them down at $2k per month. I will have $38K to pay down in the next 23 months as I start PMBA school in a few weeks. Combined income is currently $102K per year. I have $7k in a company 401k (contributing $900/month with the company match) and another $5k in a personal stock account.

I think we will be golden in 2-3 years when we are debt free, but I can't quite see the light at the end of the tunnel just yet. We plan to stay the course!
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