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California Legislature Passes "Yes Means Yes" Bill
Posted on 8/28/14 at 9:40 pm
Posted on 8/28/14 at 9:40 pm
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Associated Press= SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) â?? State lawmakers on Thursday passed a bill that would make California the first state to define when "yes means yes" while investigating sexual assaults on college campuses.
The Senate unanimously passed SB967 as states and universities across the U.S. are under pressure to change how they handle rape allegations. The bill now goes to Gov. Jerry Brown, who has not indicated his stance on the bill.
Sen. Kevin de Leon, D-Los Angeles, said his bill would begin a paradigm shift in how California campuses prevent and investigate sexual assault. Rather than using the refrain "no means no," the definition of consent under the bill requires "an affirmative, conscious and voluntary agreement to engage in sexual activity." Earlier versions of the bill had similar language.
"With this measure, we will lead the nation in bringing standards and protocols across the board so we can create an environment that's healthy, that's conducive for all students, not just for women, but for young men as well too, so young men can develop healthy patterns and boundaries as they age with the opposite sex," de Leon said before the vote.
Silence or lack of resistance does not constitute consent. The legislation says it's also not consent if the person is drunk, drugged, unconscious or asleep.
Lawmakers say consent can be nonverbal, and universities with similar policies have outlined examples as maybe a nod of the head or moving in closer to the person.
Advocates for victims of sexual assault supported the change as one that will provide consistency across campuses and challenge the notion that victims must have resisted assault in order to have valid complaints. Some critics say the legislation is overreaching and sends universities into murky, unfamiliar legal waters.
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 9:43 pm to Sentrius
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The legislation says it's also not consent if the person is drunk
Well frick
Posted on 8/28/14 at 9:44 pm to LSUsmartass
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The legislation says it's also not consent if the person is drunk
Sooo.....no sex?
Posted on 8/28/14 at 9:45 pm to Sentrius
Dafrick. No ones getting laid anymore
Posted on 8/28/14 at 9:45 pm to LSUsmartass
And how the frick are they going to prove they were drunk? Usually they don't report it to the next morning when they're all "Oh my god, what the frick did I do"
Posted on 8/28/14 at 9:47 pm to Sentrius
I remember when I asked that question in law school: was it the absence of no or actually saying yes? Crazy it's where we are heading.
Posted on 8/28/14 at 9:50 pm to Sentrius
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Silence or lack of resistance does not constitute consent. The legislation says it's also not consent if the person is drunk,
Some young men who never intended to rape will be going to jail soon for rape.
Posted on 8/28/14 at 9:53 pm to Sentrius
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Lawmakers say consent can be nonverbal, and universities with similar policies have outlined examples as maybe a nod of the head or moving in closer to the person.
I will not move close to California. They do not have my consent to frick me like they do their residents.
Posted on 8/28/14 at 9:59 pm to SabiDojo
F'ing feminist can't get laid so they try to ruin it for everyone.
Posted on 8/28/14 at 10:00 pm to Sentrius
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Sen. Kevin de Leon, D-Los Angeles, said his bill would begin a paradigm shift in how California campuses prevent and investigate sexual assault. Rather than using the refrain "no means no," the definition of consent under the bill requires "an affirmative, conscious and voluntary agreement to engage in sexual activity." Earlier ve
This guy might be the stupidest politician there is, and yes I know what I am saying by saying that. If you don't believe me watch this one minute press conference of his about guns, it's SO FUNNY!
Just so you know a little bit more about the idiot behind this....
Posted on 8/28/14 at 10:01 pm to Sentrius
Posted on 8/28/14 at 10:04 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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F'ing feminist only want other feminists coochee so they try to ruin it for everyone.
Posted on 8/28/14 at 10:05 pm to SabiDojo
Even the gays should hate this law
Posted on 8/28/14 at 10:06 pm to Sentrius
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Kevin de Leon
They should ask him what a ghost gun is
Posted on 8/28/14 at 10:12 pm to Rickety Cricket
Next they'll want a GD 27B stroke 6 in triplicate.
Posted on 8/28/14 at 10:16 pm to Rickety Cricket
Guys on the poliboard said it best.
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Stupid California. A lot of innocent young men will be thrown in prison because a girl feels guilty for cheating or just feel the hookup was a mistake.
How would they even prove if she consented in the bedroom? Nobody is there watching to see if she says "yes" or nods her head.
This won't solve anything but it'll cause a lot of legal problems especially if they start requiring the burden of proof on the men to prove rape didn't happen instead of women proving it did.
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This is a disaster of a law. 9/10 time the only witnesses to the "crime" will be the man and woman. Her word and mindset vs. his word and what he perceived her mindset to be. You bet your arse this law will force men to "prove" their innocence. This is what happens when you let true believer ideologues who have absolutely zero common sense and forethought make laws
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