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How does a tiny state like South Carolina have so much homegrown football talent

Posted on 8/28/14 at 10:17 am
Posted by RedRifle
Austin/NO
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 10:17 am
Seems like they just keep producing tons of talent, and not just the guys that go to USC or Clemson but ones that go out of state. Do they have an East German 1970s program going up there?
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 10:18 am to
well it's the like 24th most populous state, so it's not like it's "tiny"
Posted by Black n Gold
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 10:22 am to
And many of the more populated states do not put much emphasis on football
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 10:24 am to
Its the hormones in the chicken.
Posted by Respublica88
Lake Charles, LA
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 10:25 am to
Culture
Posted by ChallboiMatt
Geechee land
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 10:27 am to


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Posted by RedRifle
Austin/NO
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 10:31 am to
So why does Ole Miss suck? It's not like they have Vanderbilt's academics.
Posted by bamafan425
Jackson's Hole
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 10:33 am to
College football is cyclical.

There were times when OM > South Carolina.

And plenty of talent comes from Mississippi. He's not talking just about SoCar.
This post was edited on 8/28/14 at 10:34 am
Posted by ChallboiMatt
Geechee land
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 10:33 am to
Alabama schools and LSU steal them.

No one's choosing Ole Miss or MSU over the other 3.

ETA: The OP was asking about talent in SC, not necessarily how well USCe or Clemson are as teams.

There is plenty of talent in Mississippi, they just usually choose to go elsewhere.
This post was edited on 8/28/14 at 10:37 am
Posted by boom roasted
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 10:34 am to
Yu won thred startin sumbitch
Posted by RedRifle
Austin/NO
Member since Dec 2013
8328 posts
Posted on 8/28/14 at 10:47 am to
You are correct. That is a secondary question. I.E. with all the talent from the state (per that map ) why is Ole Miss not a power.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 10:56 am to
Aren't there like 5 SEC schools within 5 or so hours of Ole Miss? Sounds like a tough spot.
This post was edited on 8/28/14 at 10:57 am
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 10:56 am to
quote:

So why does Ole Miss suck? It's not like they have Vanderbilt's academics.


1. South Carolina has almost 2 million more people than Miss.

2. Both South Carolina and Miss. have two big schools dividing their population (USC/Clem. & OM/MSU), however 1/2 of nearly 5 million is a larger pool to draw from than 1/2 of 3 million

3. The South Carolina schools generally supplement players from a huge border state, Georgia. The Miss. schools on the other hand, can't do as good of a job in supplementing players from its two prominent border states, LA and AL (which combined only equal GA's population). LA and AL do a good job of keeping their guys "in state"
This post was edited on 8/28/14 at 10:59 am
Posted by ULL Cool J
Member since Jun 2008
924 posts
Posted on 8/28/14 at 10:57 am to
Most of that map is understandable, except for that patch in far northeast California. I wonder how that happened?
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 11:00 am to
quote:

Seems like they just keep producing tons of talent, and not just the guys that go to USC or Clemson but ones that go out of state. Do they have an East German 1970s program going up there?


Crazy thing is we nearly have the exact same demographics as AL but the two schools have but a shadow of the combined history of AU and 'Bama. Clemson does have their one national title and some success so I can't speak for them.

However, as Spurrier has mentioned in recent interviews, SC fans have always supported their team and attended game but they were never expected to or asked to donate serious bucks to make the program worth something. That has changed, and now SC and Clemson are routinely in the top 10 over these last couple of years.

The state itself may not be as deep in high school talent as our neighbors but we do produce some legitimate top talent. SC has been able to grab those the last few years and then get some good ones out of NC, GA, and FL.
This post was edited on 8/28/14 at 11:04 am
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 11:01 am to
Historically, U. Georgia has been considered clearly superior to USC. Since this is no longer true Spurrier has done very well recruiting quality Ga. HS players.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12376 posts
Posted on 8/28/14 at 11:03 am to
quote:

well it's the like 24th most populous state, so it's not like it's "tiny"



This. It's one spot behind Alabama, which also churns out enough football talent to support 2 SEC schools while also being cherry-picked here and there by other schools out of state.

I'd hardly call either of those "tiny."
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 11:03 am to
quote:

Most of that map is understandable, except for that patch in far northeast California. I wonder how that happened?





I'm guessing that is Sacramento.
Posted by RedRifle
Austin/NO
Member since Dec 2013
8328 posts
Posted on 8/28/14 at 11:15 am to
See that tiny spot in Seattle,Washington? That's where all the NBA players come from.

Per Seattle Weekly:
quote:

The 14 high schools that make up Seattle’s Metro League have more alumni playing in the NBA than New York City’s high schools—all 799 of them. More than all the high schools in Dallas, Houston, and Philadelphia, too.
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 11:21 am to
Mandeville looks honkyfied as shite in that pic.
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