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Will Valentine play this Saturday ???
Posted on 8/26/14 at 12:54 am
Posted on 8/26/14 at 12:54 am
If so, what kind of shape is he in ?
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Posted on 8/26/14 at 12:58 am to MrWillie
I can't imagine him playing right now.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 1:12 am to easy money
Absolutely not!
Posted on 8/26/14 at 1:18 am to MrWillie
Won't play this Saturday... But will be on the field at some point during the season.
Robinson had a very similar situation and similar timing. Joined the team the week of the TCU game. I thought there was no way he would see the field before week 8... But I was wrong. He was out there week 3.
But, RR is a CB and didn't have to worry about his weight, he actually needed to gain weight, but he could still play and not be tired or anything. Valentine is a big DT... No idea about his weight or shape but if I had to guess I would say he's at least a few lbs heavier than he needs to be and is not in game shape right now.
Robinson had a very similar situation and similar timing. Joined the team the week of the TCU game. I thought there was no way he would see the field before week 8... But I was wrong. He was out there week 3.
But, RR is a CB and didn't have to worry about his weight, he actually needed to gain weight, but he could still play and not be tired or anything. Valentine is a big DT... No idea about his weight or shape but if I had to guess I would say he's at least a few lbs heavier than he needs to be and is not in game shape right now.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 1:23 am to KG5989
Valentine might benefit from a RS year if he isn't in great shape. He had a little bad weight in HS and I would imagine he is probably heavier now than he was then. Once he gets in shape he will be a beast.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 1:24 am to MC5601
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Posted on 8/26/14 at 1:31 am to The Baker
I don't know Haydel, do you ???
Posted on 8/26/14 at 1:37 am to The Baker
Working out and working out + practicing in pads + scrimmaging aren't the same at all.
He might even be in shape and not overweight... But he's not gonna be in game shape or football shape.
He might even be in shape and not overweight... But he's not gonna be in game shape or football shape.
This post was edited on 8/26/14 at 1:40 am
Posted on 8/26/14 at 1:45 am to MrWillie
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Posted on 8/26/14 at 1:47 am to KG5989
I realize that KG5989. I played Jr. High, High School, & 2 years of college. I missed the first week of fall practice in my Sr. year due to a school sponsered science trip to the Bahamas. When I started with the team the 2nd week I was in better shaoe than 90% of the team. I was running 2.5 miles twice a day plus weights 3 M, W, & F. What Im saying is that it is possible to keep up.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 1:55 am to MrWillie
I get that.... But this ain't high school man. And Valentine was a DT that already needed to drop some lbs out of high school.
And you missed 1 week... That's it. Valentine missed the entire offseason workout and conditioning program and all of fall camp. Big difference between missing that much time at a major football university and 1 week of high school practice.
And Valentine missing time isn't the only issue... He's also way behind other guys as well. Those guys are that far ahead of him right now.
And that's just the physical side of it... Mentally he's behind as well. He's never participated in a workout or practice or meeting yet. His head will be spinning the first few weeks.
And you missed 1 week... That's it. Valentine missed the entire offseason workout and conditioning program and all of fall camp. Big difference between missing that much time at a major football university and 1 week of high school practice.
And Valentine missing time isn't the only issue... He's also way behind other guys as well. Those guys are that far ahead of him right now.
And that's just the physical side of it... Mentally he's behind as well. He's never participated in a workout or practice or meeting yet. His head will be spinning the first few weeks.
This post was edited on 8/26/14 at 2:09 am
Posted on 8/26/14 at 4:27 am to KG5989
u guys are forgetting he has to play in 3 practices b4 he can be eligible for a game...and he will play---we need him to play---he will rotate a lot and more and more as the season gos by. but might take a game or two b4 he plays a snap. dont get it twisted.... we fing need this guy i promise you. he will play and make plays---just will be behind at first
This post was edited on 8/26/14 at 4:28 am
Posted on 8/26/14 at 5:16 am to MrWillie
When did he get past the SEC hold up?
Posted on 8/26/14 at 5:45 am to The Baker
He ain't playing and probably won't play for a few weeks.. If he even does
Posted on 8/26/14 at 5:50 am to PeaRidgeWatash
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When did he get past the SEC hold up?
According to this morning's Advocate, he's still not cleared LINK
Posted on 8/26/14 at 6:22 am to Jim Rockford
he's be in the rotation for miss state I would imagine. give him a month to get in shape and get his feet wet. 
he's going to be a FORCE to deal with
he's going to be a FORCE to deal with
Posted on 8/26/14 at 6:28 am to Jim Rockford
Thanks Jim. I'd imagine it's just a matter of time, but the talk of him playing this Saturday doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 7:18 am to MC5601
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Valentine might benefit from a RS year if he isn't in great shape. He had a little bad weight in HS and I would imagine he is probably heavier now than he was then. Once he gets in shape he will be a beast.
Screw that. I've changed my outlook on this. I know he needs to be in shape to be a starter or major minutes, but I see no reason to rs him if he can come in and destroy stuff for 10 plays/game. Big, strong, disruptive, HEAVY could come in handy in certain packages.
Agree, one year from now the guy will be hard to block.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 8:25 am to LSUstephen17
No
With acclimation period, he is out
at this point it will be October before any game action
My guess is University of Miami might be involved in this matter. They turned in Joker Phillips for bump recruiting rule and probably sent something about Valentine because he's from the Miami area.
SEC office is not looking good on this either especially since NCAA cleared him
With acclimation period, he is out
at this point it will be October before any game action
My guess is University of Miami might be involved in this matter. They turned in Joker Phillips for bump recruiting rule and probably sent something about Valentine because he's from the Miami area.
SEC office is not looking good on this either especially since NCAA cleared him
Posted on 8/26/14 at 8:29 am to nicholastiger
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My guess is University of Miami might be involved in this matter.
Would be a bad guess.
He was cleared by the NCAA and was held up by the SEC offices. Meaning an SEC team/coach contested the eligibility in our league office.
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