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How long do we have AD?

Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:11 am
Posted by 911Moto
Member since Sep 2013
5491 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:11 am
Casual Pelicans fan here, but I plan on taking the family to some games this year and becoming more of a fan. How long is AD's current contract, and more importantly, is there a chance we keep him long term and build a contender? Or does he just bolt for greener pastures once his current contract is up? Lastly, what positions or players are we lacking for this team to contend? Is there just one piece to the puzzle that is missing, or is it worse than that? Please give me a brief "state of the union" for e Pelicans.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61514 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:12 am to
Why Anthony Davis will be a Pelican through at least the 2019-2020 season

tl;dr version is he risks losing a ton of money if he doesn't sign an extension with us and we basically have 6 offseasons (including this one) to make the team a contender.
This post was edited on 8/18/14 at 10:14 am
Posted by saintsfan92612
Taiwan
Member since Oct 2008
28878 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:26 am to
AD is here for a while

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Lastly, what positions or players are we lacking for this team to contend?


Small Forward is the only position we are weak at. But as some advanced stats show, the two SFs on our roster, Darius Miller and Luke Babbitt are both above average defenders somehow and can actually shoot unlike Aminu.


quote:

Is there just one piece to the puzzle that is missing


Health is the only thing keeping us from the playoffs. Davis will need to fully grow into a superstar for us to be a title contender though(which may happen real soon)

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, or is it worse than that?


well, we have been horribly bitten by the injury bug the last 3 years

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Please give me a brief "state of the union" for e Pelicans.

Solid starting 5 when healthy of:
Jrue Holiday-24 year old former all-star PG
Eric Gordon-25 year old with an albatross contract
Babbitt(25) or Miller(24)-poor man's three and D wings
Anthony Davis-21yo. Soon to be 3rd best player in the league
Omer Asik-28 year old defensive center

A center like Asik was sorely missing last year. Stiemsma was a disaster and Withey/Ajinca are no more than decent backups. We gave up way too many easy layups and Asik will help put an end to that.

Lots of scoring potential off the bench that should allow us to stretch a lead or get us back into games:
Tyreke Evans-24 year old PG/SG hybrid. Big body scorer
Ryan Anderson-26 year old sharpshooter

Evans and Anderson are the perfect complements to each other and I cannot wait to see them play extended minutes together.

Last year:
Pro: We were hilariously awesome on offense when we were completely healthy.
Con: We were pretty damn terrible on defense when our best 5 players were on the floor at once.
But Our best 5 players only played 9 games together

Health=playoffs
Improved defense and Davis improvement=contender
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32507 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:36 am to
I'm very doubtful that Babbitt or Miller are going to start. A lot more likely that Tyreke starts IMO. I don't see Babbitt and Miller getting many minutes at all, probably inactive or DNP CD most games (hopefully).
Posted by saintsfan92612
Taiwan
Member since Oct 2008
28878 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:44 am to
Gordon and Evans minutes need to be staggered to make our second unit great so starting Babbitt or Miller for the first 6 minutes makes a lot of sense.

But we will most likely finish games with:
Evans
Holiday
Gordon
Anderson
Davis

which gives us 3 really good 3pt shooters, a good midrange shooter and a guy who can get to the rim at will. And all 5 are pretty good FT shooters as well, which helps.



Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32507 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:54 am to
Are you assuming that Babbitt and Miller will get minutes over Salmons? I'm not sure that is the case.

For 911 the top 6 players on the team (in no order):

Davis
Holiday
Anderson
Asik
Evans
Gordon

Are all at least considered above average (possibly pushing it with Gordon)

The rest of the team is okay, with the best bench players this season being (IMO):

Rivers
Salmons
Posted by SHMILL
The foothills of CO
Member since Oct 2009
999 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:55 am to
Get your t-shirt ready..this will be the year we have the squad/health/mindset to make a run at it. It will be fun to watch, finally.
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
32966 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:58 am to
We have a lot of good pieces, we just have to figure out how to use them together.

We need to upgrade at SF, but we will have to wait until Gordon goes away. His contract is hindering off season signings.
Posted by saintsfan92612
Taiwan
Member since Oct 2008
28878 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 11:12 am to
to be honest, I forgot all about Salmons.

Yeah, he likely starts over Babbitt and Miller. He was very good defensively in the playoffs last year and has a very good corner 3.

I like our starting 5 even better now.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
15190 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 11:19 am to
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But as some advanced stats show, the two SFs on our roster, Darius Miller and Luke Babbitt are both above average defenders


The eye test doesn't look so kindly on them. We'll find out more this year, I guess.
Posted by Tigerfan_95
Member since Jun 2014
2932 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 12:26 pm to
We get a reverse lebron treatment he returns to Chicago for 4 years then comes back to nawlins
Posted by 911Moto
Member since Sep 2013
5491 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 3:09 pm to
Thanks to everyone for the replies. As a casual observer, it did appear that things were coming together pretty well. My impression of Gordon was that he's one of those guys who will never be healthy enough to be dependable. Is he all that crucial, or can we live without him if everyone else is healthy?
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

Is he all that crucial, or can we live without him if everyone else is healthy?
he is not crucial at all. once he goes we will have beaucoup money to get a legit SF and fill out the bench pretty good. hopefully he dominates this year so either he'll opt out or we can trade his expiring
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32507 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 4:03 pm to
quote:

he is not crucial at all. once he goes we will have beaucoup money to get a legit SF and fill out the bench pretty good. hopefully he dominates this year so either he'll opt out or we can trade his expiring


He's pretty crucial this season. He'll need to make open 3's and not be a complete black hole on defense. If he's injured we'd have to rely on Tyreke playing the 2 and some clusterfrick of Salmons, Babbitt, and Miller getting the minutes at SF. Unless they try to put Ryno there, which would create a huge hole on defense and eliminate our bench depth.

Agreed that he isn't needed after this season, though.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 4:11 pm to
quote:

Agreed that he isn't needed after this season, though.
I was more talking about after this season. I agree with you about this year
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