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What would afford the police better protection?
Posted on 8/16/14 at 9:08 am
Posted on 8/16/14 at 9:08 am
A go pro camera or a bullet proof vest?
Posted on 8/16/14 at 9:14 am to Scruffy
quote:
Camera
For criminal procedures, yes. For bodily protection, no. Shouldn't actually be any reason for not having both imo.
Posted on 8/16/14 at 9:16 am to Homesick Tiger
quote:Which of the two is more common?
For criminal procedures, yes. For bodily protection, no. Shouldn't actually be any reason for not having both imo.
Posted on 8/16/14 at 9:17 am to Homesick Tiger
quote:
For criminal procedures, yes. For bodily protection, no.
other than the fact that direct attacks on cops is very rare, the camera would aid in collecting evidence against those who tried
cameras protect the shite out of cops in a larger number of scenarios and are much more valuable
this is kind of a modern version of "the pen is mightier than the sword "
Posted on 8/16/14 at 9:19 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:There is a rampant myth that cops are shot at daily and have to fight there way through war zones. I guess movies could be to blame for that.
other than the fact that direct attacks on cops is very rare
Posted on 8/16/14 at 9:22 am to SlowFlowPro
It's kind of an open ended question without "against what" being asked. Don't know about you guys but when stopping someone on a road at 2 a.m., I'd feel more protected with a vest as opposed to a camera. Like I said, both are needed for their own reasons.
Posted on 8/16/14 at 9:23 am to Scruffy
quote:
There is a rampant myth that cops are shot at daily and have to fight there way through war zones. I guess movies could be to blame for that.
So then, it makes sense to equip them with cameras. Why do we always hear of police organizations raising money for bullet proof vests and not cameras.
I guess the people that use them think the vests are the better protection or is there some other reason to not want the cameras?
Posted on 8/16/14 at 9:25 am to ruzil
quote:One has no downside while the other both protects the cop and holds him accountable for his own actions.
I guess the people that use them think the vests are the better protection or is there some other reason to not want the cameras?
You tell me which one the cops would want.
Also, this tech is fairly new.
This post was edited on 8/16/14 at 9:26 am
Posted on 8/16/14 at 9:36 am to Scruffy
quote:
the other both protects the cop and holds him accountable for his own actions.
Which explains why bad cops would resists them.
If cops had cameras and the public knew this, would this affect the actions of the public?
Posted on 8/16/14 at 9:40 am to Scruffy
A vest could save your life. A camera could save you from some extra stress. Which would you rather have?
Posted on 8/16/14 at 9:42 am to Huey Lewis
quote:Considering that one happens FAR more often, to the point where a cop could go his whole career without the other occurring, I'd go with the camera.
A vest could save your life. A camera could save you from some extra stress. Which would you rather have?
It's the smart decision.
Posted on 8/16/14 at 9:48 am to ruzil
A cam would afford us citizens more protection from the police. That's my concern.
Posted on 8/16/14 at 10:11 am to ruzil
Here are the legitimate reasons while cops resist camera's:
1) First, and foremost, you are telling mostly Type-A personalities that we do not trust you and because of this everything you do must be videoed to prove you did it right.
2) Fear that our word and testimony is being disregarded and that in the public perception and court system it will become if it ain't on video it didn't happen.
Its the idea that a cop that doesn't have any giglio problems in his background that his word is not sufficient or holds less weight than a normal citizen.
3) Fear that device malfunction or simply honestly forgetting to turn the camera on will be used against them.
Believe it or not police work involves a lot of stressful situations and it is easy to forget to hit the record button sometimes.
4) Nit picky disciplinary action due to it.
For example, you ever discuss the bosses trophy wife's brand new boobs, or how much of a prick you supervisor is, or how bout just shite talking to a co-working in good humor.
Should you get jammed up because this gets caught on video?
How many of ya'll would be comfortable wearing a camera and having everything you do recorded for your supervisor/boss/company to check?
Just my observations. Thoughts?
1) First, and foremost, you are telling mostly Type-A personalities that we do not trust you and because of this everything you do must be videoed to prove you did it right.
2) Fear that our word and testimony is being disregarded and that in the public perception and court system it will become if it ain't on video it didn't happen.
Its the idea that a cop that doesn't have any giglio problems in his background that his word is not sufficient or holds less weight than a normal citizen.
3) Fear that device malfunction or simply honestly forgetting to turn the camera on will be used against them.
Believe it or not police work involves a lot of stressful situations and it is easy to forget to hit the record button sometimes.
4) Nit picky disciplinary action due to it.
For example, you ever discuss the bosses trophy wife's brand new boobs, or how much of a prick you supervisor is, or how bout just shite talking to a co-working in good humor.
Should you get jammed up because this gets caught on video?
How many of ya'll would be comfortable wearing a camera and having everything you do recorded for your supervisor/boss/company to check?
Just my observations. Thoughts?
Posted on 8/16/14 at 10:14 am to theenemy
quote:How many of us are given the ability to physically assault US citizens?
How many of ya'll would be comfortable wearing a camera and having everything you do recorded for your supervisor/boss/company to check?
With great power comes great responsibility.
This post was edited on 8/16/14 at 10:15 am
Posted on 8/16/14 at 10:17 am to Scruffy
quote:
How many of us are given the ability to physically assault US citizens?
According to the 2nd amendment.....all us.
Posted on 8/16/14 at 10:26 am to ruzil
Safer? Vest.
I don't know how a camera is going to save their life from a bullet.
I don't know how a camera is going to save their life from a bullet.
Posted on 8/16/14 at 11:47 am to Scruffy
cops are completely out of control and the danger from firearms to them is minimal....
46 traffic fatalities, 33 by firearms, lowest since wild west
20% of seattle homicides by cops
cops kill about 400 per year
46 traffic fatalities, 33 by firearms, lowest since wild west
20% of seattle homicides by cops
cops kill about 400 per year
This post was edited on 8/16/14 at 11:49 am
Posted on 8/16/14 at 11:54 am to ruzil
Around 150 officers are killed on average a year in the US, and 450 civilians are killed on average by police. Using these averages an encounter is almost 4 times more dangerous for the civilian as the cop. Which group seems to need the protection more? Perhaps the cop should provide a vest to the civilian before any other action takes place. ( I KID). The cameras should be mandatory for the protection of everyone cop and civilian alike. As far as random shite being picked up on camera it is a non issue, the video would be deleted after a certain period of time without any reported incident. And no one has enough free time to review hours of video looking for innocuous comments.
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