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‘The grossest incompetence:’ IRS took 850 days to clear ID theft victim’s name

Posted on 8/15/14 at 6:24 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 8/15/14 at 6:24 am
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Watchdog.org

‘The grossest incompetence:’ IRS took 850 days to clear ID theft victim’s name
by Paul Brennan
August 14, 2014


INDIANOLA, Iowa — Jason Dinesen smiled politely and shook his head when asked about a new bill in the U.S. Senate that aims to improve how the IRS handles cases of identity theft by assigning one agent to deal with each individual case.

RedTape-Iowa“I’m skeptical about the bill. Having an assigned contact person is a good idea in theory, but it’s not going to do much unless there are some other major changes at the IRS,” Dinesen told Iowa Watchdog.

Dinesen, an accountant, knows firsthand about what changes need to be made. One of his clients had a refund delayed by identity theft, and it took Dinesen 850 days to resolve the problem.

Wendy Boka wasn’t just any client. She was a close friend and had been married to Dinesen’s college roommate, Brian Boka. Wendy and Brian were Dinesen’s first clients when he opened his accounting firm in Indianola.

Brian Boka died in early 2010, leaving Wendy a widow at age 29. She moved to Texas in December 2010 to start a new chapter in her life.

But she didn’t change accountants.

In April 2011, Dinesen e-filed Wendy and Brian’s final joint tax return.

The e-file was rejected.

“I thought it was just a software glitch. That’s not uncommon,” Dinesen explained.

He refiled and it was rejected again.

Dinesen called the IRS and was told a return using Brian Boka’s Social Security number had already been filed.

“I had to call Wendy and tell her someone had stolen Brian’s identity and was using it to try to get a refund check,” Dinesen said.

“I was completely surprised. This was first that I had any idea that someone was using Brian’s identity,” Wendy Boka Gonzalez told Iowa Watchdog in a phone interview. She now lives in San Antonio and recently remarried.

The IRS told Dinesen all he needed to do was file a paper copy of Wendy and Brian’s return. It would be processed and Wendy would receive her refund.

Dinesen filed the paper copy and waited.

“You expect a certain slowness when you’re dealing with the IRS,” Dinesen said.

Dinesen regularly called to check on the status of the return. Each time he was told it was being processed.

By August Dinesen was no longer satisfied with that answer. He pressed for specific details.

Dinesen learned the return wasn’t being processed . . . .



. . . . “Because of how the IRS computer is programmed and because Brian was listed first on the 2010 return, the refund check had to be sent to Brian’s last known address. Even though they knew Brian was dead. Even though they had Wendy’s current address,” Dinesen explained.

“I felt like I had almost reached my breaking point,” Boka Gonzalez recalled. “It was the grossest incompetence. It was mind boggling to me that they could acknowledge something was wrong, they knew what had to be done, but no one could do anything about it.”

The IRS solution to the problem was to send the check to the old address and, after it was returned as undeliverable, reissue the check to Wendy at the correct address.

Still more weeks dragged by.

Dinesen discovered the check deliberately sent to the wrong address had been returned, but the agent still hadn’t figured out how to get the computer to issue a check to the correct address.

Under pressure from Dinesen and Boka Gonzalez, the agent finally resorted to a “special procedure.”

“They got an actual person to issue the check,” Dinesen said.

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Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 6:29 am to
Let's see....IRS and incompetence in the same sentence.....this is legit.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123887 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 6:42 am to
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Let's see....IRS and incompetence in the same sentence.....this is legit.
What is actually more amazing is the glaring inability to appropriately pursue perpetrators of identity theft. It is not just incompetence. It is complete disinterest in doing the right thing.

They sent the damn refund to a perp, and then punish the good guy for it.
It's maddening.


This post was edited on 8/15/14 at 7:06 am
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 6:53 am to
Yep.....in the history of this nation, our Gov't has only gotten 1 thing right (historically speaking) and that's the military but they've been screwing that up in the last 20 yrs. Our Gov't would screw up and 1 car Chinese funeral.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98710 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 8:15 am to
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Jason Dinesen


Will be audited with the quickness.
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 8:18 am to
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IRS took 850 days to clear ID theft victim’s name


I read this and thought that was about average time frame for the IRS to help anyone.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45803 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 8:23 am to
The tax payers wouldn't have this problem with a flat tax...
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 8:34 am to
Yep and the more I deal with the irs the more I would prefer a flat tax or a vat.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57214 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 9:42 am to
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‘The grossest incompetence:’ IRS took 850 days to clear ID theft victim’s name


We should totally put these folks in charge of healthcare!

Single payor for everyone!!

Who's with me? Let's do this!!
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 9:48 am to
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glaring inability to appropriately pursue perpetrators of identity theft


Few things:

1. Identity theft is rampant and it is a big problem for the IRS as well. I've had a few clients in the past two years have to deal with this with the IRS.

2. I've already said here in a couple of threads including one I started that the IRS needs more money and funding from Congress. Everyone here went nuts disagreeing with me, but that is pure ignorance.

It is a fact the IRS is extremely underfunded and short staffed. The IRS watchdog, taxpayer advocacy group gave their report to Congress at the beginning of the year and told Congress the #1 problem with the IRS is they are underfunded and short staffed and the result is taxpayers get fricked regularly.
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35610 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 9:49 am to
That's shameful.
Posted by DallasTiger
THE Capital City
Member since Jan 2004
4224 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:22 am to
This - identity theft related to my tax filings - occurred in 2012 when I filed my 2011 state and federal returns.

When my CPA notified me of the problem and began working on it, she contacted the state of Virginia, where I live, and the IRS and presented both with the exact same information.

The state of Virginia corrected the error, issued me my refund check and sent me a letter apologizing for the mistake. And they did so within 45 days of my CPA notifying them of the problem.

The IRS? Took me 16 months to close out the matter with these incompetent and arrogant bastards.

I'll concede a few folks, like the Coast Guard, NOAA and the CDC. But just about every other agency or branch of the Federal government (including the military) is broken, dysfunctional and corrupt at the top.

I'll not a Tea Party guy, but the U.S. Federal government does not work any longer. And it's getting worse, not better.
This post was edited on 8/15/14 at 10:24 am
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 12:03 pm to
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It is a fact the IRS is extremely underfunded and short staffed. The IRS watchdog, taxpayer advocacy group gave their report to Congress at the beginning of the year and told Congress the #1 problem with the IRS is they are underfunded and short staffed and the result is taxpayers get fricked regularly.


I very strongly disagree with your statement. From my experience you might as well pile the money up and burn it as increase IRS funding. Simply increasing funding does nothing to improve attitude and competence, this is where the agency is sorely lacking.
This post was edited on 8/15/14 at 12:04 pm
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