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Buying a new desktop.....All-in-Ones or traditional?

Posted on 8/10/14 at 12:48 pm
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 8/10/14 at 12:48 pm
I'm not someone who will "build their own" computer.

So I ask, which is considered "better"...all-in-ones or the traditional tower. I was ready to pull the trigger on an All in one touchscreen, but figured the tech board could help.

So, which is best? And are their deals that you know of?

info.....family with kids in elementary. So normal activities video, pics, bills, surfing, and I run some company activity (webex trainings) etc.

Whatch got?
Posted by Finn
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 8/10/14 at 12:55 pm to
all in ones are crap stay away
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 1:01 pm to
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all in ones are crap stay away


Suggestions? I was looking at something like the Dell @ BBuy. 24" 8gig and 1 TB memory. What is junk about them? I don't game and all that stuff, just work and surfing and family photos/videos, etc
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/10/14 at 1:09 pm to
The thing about all-in-ones is that they either use mobile-platform components or low-end desktop platform for the small footprint and heat mitigation, so they are not as powerful as a traditional tower at the same price point. All-in-ones are essentially laptops without the portability. The trade-off is the all-in-ones have larger screens for the desktop environment vs. laptops. Similar to a laptop being permanently connected to a docking station. If something breaks, the whole unit has to be serviced, including the monitor. It has the upgradeability limitations of a laptop as well.

With a desktop, you get desktop platform components, which are always superior to its mobile counterpart dollar for dollar. The drawback here is that if you really, really want the touch-screen functionality, you'll need to buy a touch monitor separately, and they're about double the cost of a decent 1080p LED monitor. The touch screen is where a large chunk of the All-in-One price comes from.

Overall, for your purposes, either one at most price points will be fine. You will just get more for your dollar (for internal components) with the desktop platform.
This post was edited on 8/10/14 at 1:11 pm
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 8/10/14 at 1:25 pm to
iMac
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 8/10/14 at 1:26 pm to
Damn. That looks good. I bet it's pricey.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

I bet it's pricey.


Of course it is. They start at $1099 for a configuration that's slower than the lowest model Macbook Air. However, I suspect the Dell that OP is looking at is also close to $1,000 and isn't configured a whole lot better. In any case, OS X may be off the table depending on the type of WebEx training that will be conducted.
Posted by ColdDuck
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Posted on 8/10/14 at 2:04 pm to
Macs are not touch screen.
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 8/10/14 at 2:20 pm to
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Macs are not touch screen.



Touch screen is for phones and pads. It's silly on a desktop.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 2:40 pm to
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It's silly on a desktop.


It is, which makes a desktop platform far superior to All-in-Ones in my opinion. And eliminates the iMac as a contender completely.

OP, I know you don't want to build your own, but here's a decent representation of what you can get for under $1000 in the desktop platform. It will destroy that AIO Dell you're considering (and the iMac obviously). And I didn't even really try.

PCPartPicker part list: LINK
Price breakdown by merchant: LINK

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($89.66 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($71.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ TigerDirect)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($83.50 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($97.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($102.98 @ Newegg)
Monitor: AOC i2267Fw 60Hz 22.0" Monitor ($125.44 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Logitech MK550 Wireless Ergonomic Keyboard w/Laser Mouse ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $971.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-10 15:26 EDT-0400





PS. If you are in Baton Rouge, I assemble for free.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 8/10/14 at 2:55 pm to
I just got a touchscreen monitor for my desktop (for shits and gigs) and I love it
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:00 pm to
quote:

I just got a touchscreen monitor for my desktop (for shits and gigs) and I love it


And it will be on r/hardwareswap in 2 weeks
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:19 pm to
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It is, which makes a desktop platform far superior to All-in-Ones in my opinion. And eliminates the iMac as a contender completely


Except your desktop system comes with windows 8.
Whereas the iMac comes with OS X & iLife.

It's a perfect set up for his elementary school aged kids.

He doesn't need a system that "blows away" something.

Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:25 pm to
He either wants Windows or OS X. Sounds like he was looking at Windows All-in-Ones, likely for work integration, which may have something to do with the WebEx training he provides. If he wanted OS X, this would be a different thread.

Contribute something based on knowledge and expertise, please.
This post was edited on 8/10/14 at 3:28 pm
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85034 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:30 pm to



I got my wife an iMac for christmas last year. I knew exactly what I was getting her. She already had a macbook pro and wanted something for the office that would still integrate well with our iPhones and appleTV. It's not a power machine. But it's pretty and an interface she's used to...

Plus, and more importantly, "wife" is the keyword here.
This post was edited on 8/10/14 at 3:31 pm
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:33 pm to
quote:

PS. If you are in Baton Rouge, I assemble for free.




Take him up on it, OP. That's a pretty outstanding offer for a really great PC.
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:37 pm to
quote:

He either wants Windows or OS X


quote:

If he wanted OS X, this would be a different thread.



?

Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:40 pm to
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But it's pretty and an interface she's used to...


That's another point. Windows dominates, overwhelmingly, pretty much every industry that uses computer. I would much rather my children learn the ins and outs of the dominant (and coincidentally more complicated) platform, including proper maintenance and security. Also, my kids are too young to know it yet, but the day they need a real computer is the day they learn to build one.

My 3-year-old can plug in peripherals
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:49 pm to
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Posted by TigerGman
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:51 pm to
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children learn the ins and outs of the dominant (and coincidentally more complicated) platform, including proper maintenance and security.


Sounds like child abuse to me...
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