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Question about setting up a repeater bridge with dd-wrt, i.e. ip addresses

Posted on 8/7/14 at 9:30 am
Posted by guedeaux
Tardis
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 9:30 am
I am working on setting up a repeater bridge using dd-wrt. My goal is to have the routers on the same SSID and have the devices (mainly phones and tablets) access the router with the best signal. I finally got the client router accessing the internet from the access point router, but I have not yet set up the virtual interface to allow for wireless connection s.

My question pertains to the host ip address on the client in regards to devices being able to see each other regardless of which router they are connected too. One guide I was using stated

quote:

The router name and host name can be anything at all that you want, they can even be the same as eachother but preferably something different from your access point. The host name you give to this router is what will show-up in the list of connection of your access point, so it's useful to chose something you will recognize. You can always name it for the room it's in or what devices are typically connected to it. For the IP address, it needs to be in a different subnet than your access point. If your access point is 192.168.A.whatever, then this router needs to be 192.168.B.whatever. A and B must be different numbers. A typical configuration is to have the access point at 192.168.1.1 and the client (this router we are configuring right now) at 192.168.2.1


So this is what I did and it is connecting to the internet. However, I also read that when assigning ip addresses, they need to be on the same subnet to allow for wifi-connected devices to see each other across the routers. Can someone confirm that for me? and if so, what should I assign as the host ip on the client and then when I get to setting up the virtual interface, how should I set it up to assign ips?

Also, if I am totally screwing the pooch on this one, let me know and I will go back to the google and try again hahaha Thanks.
Posted by guedeaux
Tardis
Member since Jan 2008
13609 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:29 pm to
Bump...

and I attempted to put the repeater on the same subnet as the access point but it won't connect to the internet. I changed the ip back to a different subnet and I could get internet again. I did not install dd-wrt on the access point router, just left it stock. I guess I will flash it on there and see if that makes it work...
Posted by Casty McBoozer
your mom's fat arse
Member since Sep 2005
35495 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:30 pm to
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I am working on setting up a repeater bridge

Nope. frick that. You will have problems. Cannot help.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:39 pm to
Wish I knew more to help you out here, but I've just never had any use or reason to learn much about DD-WRT or anything about setting up repeater bridges with it.

What exactly is the problem here? When the second router uses a different subnet, your devices connected to it cannot see the devices on the other router?
Posted by guedeaux
Tardis
Member since Jan 2008
13609 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:45 pm to
quote:

What exactly is the problem here? When the second router uses a different subnet, your devices connected to it cannot see the devices on the other router?


That's what I was trying to figure out as I read conflicting statements. I cant get the repeater to access the internet from the access point when I assign it an ip in a different subnet. I was able to get internet from one of the LAN ports when it was set up on the same subnet, but I did not have a chance to set up the virtual interface to allow for wifi to test if I could print, cast, etc. across the different routers,

I was hoping we had some dd-wrt wizards on the board.
This post was edited on 8/7/14 at 2:47 pm
Posted by nino2469
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2004
5526 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:50 pm to
Can't you just break up the subnet and assign router 1 with say 192.168.1.2 - 192.168.1.150 and then the second router with 192.168.1.151 - 192.168.1.250?
Posted by guedeaux
Tardis
Member since Jan 2008
13609 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:58 pm to
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Can't you just break up the subnet and assign router 1 with say 192.168.1.2 - 192.168.1.150 and then the second router with 192.168.1.151 - 192.168.1.250?


Thats what I tried, but router 2 would not connect to the internet.

I had router 1 at 192.168.1.1 and it assigns .100-.199.

So I set router 2 at 192.168.1.200 and the start ip at .201

If I changed router 2 to 192.168.2.1 and it starting ip at (2).100 it would connect to the internet, but I don't think devices could see each other across the subnets.

Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14942 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 3:06 pm to
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So I set router 2 at 192.168.1.200 and the start ip at .201

If I changed router 2 to 192.168.2.1 and it starting ip at (2).100 it would connect to the internet, but I don't think devices could see each other across the subnets.


Put router 2 outside the DHCP scope of Router 1 (but in the same subnet), disable DHCP on router 2. See how that works.
Posted by guedeaux
Tardis
Member since Jan 2008
13609 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 3:18 pm to
quote:

Put router 2 outside the DHCP scope of Router 1 (but in the same subnet), disable DHCP on router 2. See how that works.


I will give that a try this evening. Thanks.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 3:24 pm to
Yes, this I have done. I ran a second router simply set as an access point, hardwired from LAN port to LAN port. Primary router keeps its IP of 192.168.1.1, with a DHPC address range that starts at 192.168.1.2. Then on the second router, I disable DHCP or use the set up as access point option and change the router's IP address to 192.168.1.2 (same subnet).
Posted by Casty McBoozer
your mom's fat arse
Member since Sep 2005
35495 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 3:26 pm to
I actually did just this a while back before I knew better. Repeaters are just a bad idea in general. Take a look at this page though, that looks about like what I did. LINK
Posted by guedeaux
Tardis
Member since Jan 2008
13609 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 3:53 pm to
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Take a look at this page though, that looks about like what I did. LINK


I have found a lot of things that have those instructions, but "repeater bridge" is not an option for wireless mode on the dd-wrt firmware no my router.
Posted by Casty McBoozer
your mom's fat arse
Member since Sep 2005
35495 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 4:21 pm to
What modes are available? Perhaps the wireless mode would be repeater and something under network would have the option for a bridge to the lan ports? I'm assuming that's what you're trying to do anyway.

Posted by guedeaux
Tardis
Member since Jan 2008
13609 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 4:29 pm to
there is no repeater available.

There were client, client bridge, and a few others. But none were repeater. I was using client, but maybe I should have done client bridge.
Posted by guedeaux
Tardis
Member since Jan 2008
13609 posts
Posted on 8/8/14 at 8:53 am to
I changed the mode to "Client Bridge" and that disabled DHCP. I put the bridge on the same subnet out of the range of the AP router. I was able to print from my phone at the back of the house while hooked up to the bridge so everything is working for now. I walked around and sure enough it was switching to the closest router. My wife didn't even realize i made any changes while on her phone so its good to go.

Thanks for the suggestions and help
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