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Amazing Spiderman - Spoilers

Posted on 8/3/14 at 2:08 am
Posted by TigerMyth36
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Posted on 8/3/14 at 2:08 am
Finally got around to watching it.




CONS
So it isn't enough that he has super powers the morons in charge decided it was necessary to make him Batman too.

Able to fix anything. Able to solve the equation and immediately know how to fix the 3 legged mouse on the FIRST FRACKING TRY.

Don't get me started on movie stars and directors not wanting the star's head covered.

HOW FRACKING MANY TIME DID PETER TAKE OFF HIS MASK?

Did anyone not know he was Spidey by the end of the movie?


Yup and I am just getting started.

Geez, almost like Daredevil where every fracking person in the movie knew who Daredevil was.

I'm sure Freaux was pretty pissed about the never ending webbing. He hates never ending bullets in guns so never ending webbing must have pissed him off.

I'm sure someone thought the lining up of the cranes would just be super fantastic. Not me, but evidently someone thought it would be super cool to see Peter using the web to move about for about 10 minutes.

Don't you love in movies when the hero is disabled by injury to the point they can barely move, then 2 minutes later they are back to full health even though they were shot in the leg. I know I just love it.

Other Random Plot Holes / Inexplicable Crap

So Peter is kicking the crap out of that first batch of bad guys and even with his super strength and climbing skills, the guy he beat the crap out of was still able to beat him to the TOP of the fracking building!!!

What was the point of the antidote? Connors never perfected the serum or if he did they never made a point to keep that scene in the movie. By morning everyone would have reverted back to human anyway.

The Lizard King lost his lab coat when fighting Peter in the school. They made a point to show the torn lab coat in the hole, yet the very next time we see the King, he is wearing a lab coat.

Where did the gasoline come from that caught the car on fire for no other reason than some douche writer thought they needed to jazz up the scene? What started the fire? If gasoline ignites on its own, I might be a bit nervous getting to work on Monday.

A high school intern has access to the entire lab in a billion dollar company?

Peter stalks Gwen and she pretty much loves it.

Are you telling me with 1000s of those Spiders nobody else has ever been bitten? Shouldn't there be tons of Spidermen all over Oscorp?

Why didn't anyone question peter's insane dunking skills?

Why did the bully become pals with Peter after being humiliated by Peter?

Pretty irresponsible of the Chemistry teacher to have 2 chemicals next to each other that will explode if mixed.

About how many bullets perforated the Lizard King? Do you know of any reptiles that could survive about 200 rounds being pumped into them? I guess we didn't see the scene where the good doctor spliced in some Hulk DNA into the formula.

The Lizard King raced off to stop Evil Indian from using the serum on the Vets. So he was attempting to do something good all the while killing people the whole way.



PROS
Gwen was hotter than snaggletooth.


This post was edited on 8/3/14 at 3:52 am
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35272 posts
Posted on 8/3/14 at 3:14 am to
frick the Spider-Man movies. The Raimi part 2 was pretty good. Other than that, they're straight garbage.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
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Member since Mar 2009
27875 posts
Posted on 8/3/14 at 8:40 am to
Quit saying fracking it's really annoying.
Posted by biglego
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Member since Nov 2007
76330 posts
Posted on 8/3/14 at 8:43 am to
The crane scene was cheezy.

The basketball dunk was a weird scene bc the bully was so outlandish. Threatening a girl like that? Weird.

Otherwise I liked it. Actually I liked the newest one a lot bc it had some humor.
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 8/3/14 at 8:53 am to
You think that was bad? Wait until you see the sequel

quote:

frick the Spider-Man movies. The Raimi part 2 was pretty good. Other than that, they're straight garbage.


:kige:
This post was edited on 8/3/14 at 8:54 am
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37281 posts
Posted on 8/3/14 at 9:11 am to


I liked it for the most part...

quote:

TigerMyth36


But Please oh pleae watch ASM 2 then post about that too.

quote:

I'm sure Freaux was pretty pissed about the never ending webbing. He hates never ending bullets in guns so never ending webbing must have pissed him off.


Pissed? Naaa. It's like never ending bullets, that DOESN'T tick me off in IM3 it's just a complete whiff with the no power core.

Plus, that's kind of out of the comics, never-ending webbing.

quote:

Peter stalks Gwen and she pretty much loves it.


Really watch the second one. At least the first 15 minutes.



Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39732 posts
Posted on 8/3/14 at 10:13 am to
quote:

Plus, that's kind of out of the comics, never-ending webbing.


I would have had no problem if the webbing was part of Peter's spider change. Making it a mechanical cartridge that never runs out was pointless. Once again, they wanted to make him Batman with gadgets on top of already having super powers.


This guy doesn't really have a big head.


This guy shouldn't be playing Spiderman. He should be playing The Leader.


Garfield was made for this role. They wouldn't even need to enhance the size of his head.


I'm not kidding, that boy's head is like Sputnik
This post was edited on 8/3/14 at 10:14 am
Posted by Freauxzen
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37281 posts
Posted on 8/3/14 at 10:16 am to


The hair did no favors.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 8/3/14 at 10:17 am to
He's prob got a small head under all the hair
Posted by thatguy1892
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Member since Aug 2011
4628 posts
Posted on 8/3/14 at 11:45 am to
quote:

Making it a mechanical cartridge that never runs out was pointless.


When you're telling a story as long as you show the means of how something works once you don't have to necessarily show how it works a second time. What would have been pointless would to be showing Peter changing out the cartridge when the audience had already seen how the mechanism works. Changing a web cartridge is something that is going to be a quick change, not suspenseful like reloading a six shooter.

I remember in the 90s cartoon they always did the "Spider-Man is falling and he needs to switch out his web cartridge!" But then the dialogue for the character would be "uh oh new a web cartridge." Then every once in a blue moon Spider-Man would be completely out because he was "out all night," or something to that element.
This post was edited on 8/3/14 at 2:22 pm
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39732 posts
Posted on 8/3/14 at 11:49 am to
The cartridge is what is pointless. I get we don't want to stop every 3 minutes for a change out.

They wanted to make him some super genius on top of having spider powers. He had to have his gadgets. he had to solve the equation.

They had to ramp him up and elevate his powers because being spiderman wasn't good enough. He needed to be Reed Richards + Spiderman.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 8/3/14 at 11:54 am to
I always liked the idea of the webs being a part of his powers rather than a gadget. But this is straight from the comic book so its not something I would gripe about.
Posted by thatguy1892
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/3/14 at 11:56 am to
quote:

In Forest Hills, Queens, New York City,[31] high school student Peter Parker is a science-whiz orphan living with his Uncle Ben and Aunt May. As depicted in Amazing Fantasy #15 (August 1962), he is bitten by a radioactive spider (erroneously classified as an insect in the panel) at a science exhibit and "acquires the agility and proportionate strength of an arachnid."[32] Along with super strength, he gains the ability to adhere to walls and ceilings. Through his native knack for science, he develops a gadget that lets him fire adhesive webbing of his own design through small, wrist-mounted barrels.


Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39732 posts
Posted on 8/3/14 at 12:01 pm to
Ok. If you want to focus on 1 of the 23 things mentioned.

He didn't invent the webbing or the cartridges. Just the quick releasse deplouyment.

How expensive do you think those cartridges would be? A micro-thin filiment which can hold the weight of a limo and yet fit into a tiny cartridge.

Was Peter robbing banks to pay the $1,000s needed to buy all of those cartridges? He probably let his Uncle die for the insurance money.

This post was edited on 8/3/14 at 12:03 pm
Posted by thatguy1892
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Posted on 8/3/14 at 12:15 pm to
I'm not really trying to focus on the 1 of 23 things you pointed out I'm just saying that this one might be unwarranted.

I mean I used to be a nitpicker when it comes to movies (and sometime do it just to piss people off) but then I saw Max Landis' Death and Return of Superman short where he says that his father (John Landis) asked him, "how do you kill a vampire?" (I'm a big vampire purist, in that if it's not somewhat like Dracula or other old vampire lore then it's wrong) Max answered the same way I would have if someone like John Landis would have asked me, "cross, sunlight, stake through the heart, garlic." John tells his son, "wrong. You can kill vampires anyway you want because they are not real." The point is Spider-Man is not real, so the means to how he gets his resources is irrelevant.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39732 posts
Posted on 8/3/14 at 12:25 pm to
quote:

"wrong. You can kill vampires anyway you want because they are not real." The point is Spider-Man is not real, so the means to how he gets his resources is irrelevant.

I get that the writer can do what he wants.

And as the person viewing the film, I can point out sloppy / lazy writing.

Suspension of disbelief doesn't mean suspension of all rationality.

Some of the things I mentioned were just sloppy.

They changed the plot of the film in the editing. In the initial script, Peter was genetically different from the start and the spider bite just turned on his altered genetic code.

Had they left this information in the final cut, my beef about 1000s of spiders / 1000s of spidermen wouldn't be an issue. But they cut out that nugget, so essentially based on the story on the screen, anyone bitten could become spider man. That is sloppy.

Interns having access anywhere is sloppy / lazy writing.

One scene with Lizard king finishing / stabilizing his formula would have knocked out my beef about the antidote.

Posted by JimMorrison
The Peninsula
Member since May 2012
20747 posts
Posted on 8/3/14 at 1:08 pm to
The crane scene was beyond ridiculous; even for a super hero movie.

Gwen was definitely fine.

Can someone answer why he had to use that wire for the web? I'm not familiar with the comic universe, but in the other spiderman movie, he produced his own webbing through his wrist?
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39732 posts
Posted on 8/3/14 at 1:17 pm to
quote:

I'm not familiar with the comic universe, but in the other spiderman movie, he produced his own webbing through his wrist?

From the comic book. I actually like the change from the core story in the Maguire Spidey movies. Makes sense he would be able to produce his own web. And that takes away any nitpicking about cartridge replacement.

Or gripes that Peter is insane for swinging from those heights given the fact the cartridges could run out at any minute.
This post was edited on 8/3/14 at 1:18 pm
Posted by illuminatic
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Member since Sep 2012
6962 posts
Posted on 8/3/14 at 1:54 pm to
So your biggest gripes about the movie are the things that made it truer to the source material than Raimi's films.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39732 posts
Posted on 8/3/14 at 2:02 pm to
quote:

So your biggest gripes about the movie are the things that made it truer to the source material than Raimi's films.
Might learn to read. That was one thing.Not sure how one thing becomes biggest gripes.

Also they didn't entirely adhere to the source material since OSCORP made the filiment and cartridges.

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