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A look at LSU ten years ago
Posted on 8/1/14 at 11:20 am
Posted on 8/1/14 at 11:20 am
If you're the type that must prognosticate, look to the past to predict the future.
Compare 2014 to LSU's 2004 roster.
In 2004, the Defense boasted such names as:
Marcus Spears, Kyle Williams, Glenn Dorsey, Claude Wroten, Melvin Oliver. And that's just the D-line. The DB's were Laron Landry, Corey Webster, Travis Daniels, Craig Steltz
The names on offense match the impressive defensive list:
JaMarcus Russell, Dwayne Bowe, Jo Addai, Buster Davis, Andrew Whitworth, Nate Livings, Ben Wilkerson, Early Doucet, Lavelle Hawkins*, Skyler Green, Alley Broussard.
Time will tell if the players of 2014 prove to be more talented, but for now we can use the 2004 squad as an example to temper expectations. The 2004 squad was ranked #3 in the preseason polls, and many picked them to repeat as champions. Saban coached this immensely talented team to three losses, and came within an Alexis Serna extra point of losing 4.
A good, experienced QB can make a world of difference.
* On campus for about 4 days, but he's still listed on the roster so deal with it.
Compare 2014 to LSU's 2004 roster.
In 2004, the Defense boasted such names as:
Marcus Spears, Kyle Williams, Glenn Dorsey, Claude Wroten, Melvin Oliver. And that's just the D-line. The DB's were Laron Landry, Corey Webster, Travis Daniels, Craig Steltz
The names on offense match the impressive defensive list:
JaMarcus Russell, Dwayne Bowe, Jo Addai, Buster Davis, Andrew Whitworth, Nate Livings, Ben Wilkerson, Early Doucet, Lavelle Hawkins*, Skyler Green, Alley Broussard.
Time will tell if the players of 2014 prove to be more talented, but for now we can use the 2004 squad as an example to temper expectations. The 2004 squad was ranked #3 in the preseason polls, and many picked them to repeat as champions. Saban coached this immensely talented team to three losses, and came within an Alexis Serna extra point of losing 4.
A good, experienced QB can make a world of difference.
* On campus for about 4 days, but he's still listed on the roster so deal with it.
This post was edited on 8/1/14 at 11:35 am
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Posted on 8/1/14 at 11:21 am to victoire sécurisé
I don't like this thread
Posted on 8/1/14 at 11:22 am to victoire sécurisé
While I may or may not agree with what you're saying...
Lavelle Hawkins was on campus for about 4 days...I would remove him from your list.
Lavelle Hawkins was on campus for about 4 days...I would remove him from your list.
This post was edited on 8/1/14 at 11:23 am
Posted on 8/1/14 at 11:22 am to victoire sécurisé
Oh boy.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 11:26 am to victoire sécurisé
This puts things in perspective and really shows that it's not just talent, but the need to get the right breaks and things to go your way throughout the season.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 11:31 am to victoire sécurisé
"Saban coached this immensely talented team to three losses, and came within an Alexis Serna extra point of losing 4."
Posted on 8/1/14 at 11:40 am to victoire sécurisé
This post was edited on 8/1/14 at 11:42 am
Posted on 8/1/14 at 11:45 am to victoire sécurisé
I guess your point is about experienced QB play. A 5th yer senior played the majority of snaps that year.
So we are going to lose more than 4?
So we are going to lose more than 4?
This post was edited on 8/1/14 at 11:46 am
Posted on 8/1/14 at 11:48 am to tigabait01
The point is that immense talent across the board doesn't always translate to wins.
And Marcus Randle was not a very talented QB. Russell was very talented, but not experienced. Sometimes you need both.
And Marcus Randle was not a very talented QB. Russell was very talented, but not experienced. Sometimes you need both.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 11:50 am to tigabait01
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So we are going to lose more than 4?
If I were forced to make a bet, I'd place my bet on 3 losses.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 11:51 am to victoire sécurisé
And Saban had half a foot already out the door that year.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 11:54 am to victoire sécurisé
Some sense on the Rant.. Boooooo.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 11:57 am to victoire sécurisé
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The point is that immense talent across the board doesn't always translate to wins.
And Marcus Randle was not a very talented QB. Russell was very talented, but not experienced. Sometimes you need both.
This guy gets it.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 12:03 pm to victoire sécurisé
Meh, most of those guys were pretty young, and everyone looks better 10 yrs down the road, in 10 yrs ppl will be talking about Mett, ODB3 and Hill as possible GOATs
Posted on 8/1/14 at 12:04 pm to victoire sécurisé
Or we could use the 2003 squad and preseason rankings to raise our expectations thought the roof 
Posted on 8/1/14 at 12:08 pm to nicholastiger
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And Saban had half a foot already out the door that year.
He had just finished working his arse off (as he always does) to pull in the #1 recruiting class. He went into the season looking to repeat. In week 1, he got out-played and out-coached by an overmatched Oregon State team. To suggest that LSU struggled that season because Saban "had one foot out the door" is just fooling themselves. LSU struggled that year and in 2002 because they didn't have a QB who could consistently pass the ball.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 12:08 pm to ThePoo
I want to say 14/15 preseason AP/coaches ranking for 2003 season
Posted on 8/1/14 at 12:10 pm to Tiger1242
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everyone looks better 10 yrs down the road
Ask Jamarcus if this is true. LSU fans quickly forgot just how good he was for us.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 12:12 pm to tlsu15
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LSU fans quickly forgot just how good he was for us.
Really?
Posted on 8/1/14 at 12:14 pm to ThePoo
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I want to say 14/15 preseason AP/coaches ranking for 2003 season
What would that preseason raking have been if Mauck hadn't gotten hurt in '02? I'm guessing top 3 with USC and OK.
A talented, experienced QB makes all the difference.
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