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Talk of USA breaking up becoming more mainstream? Noonan in the WSJ

Posted on 8/1/14 at 8:30 am
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 8/1/14 at 8:30 am
Peggy Noonan pens a column today in the WSJ entitled "Out of Many, Two?". LINK

Ms. Noonan is not coming out in support of breaking up the USA but she does speak from experience about her concern about the state of politics today and leads with a paragraph about a conversation she had with "an acquaintance of considerable accomplishment in the political and financial worlds".

quote:

My acquaintance said it's possible the U.S. in our lifetimes will simply break up, tear apart. This might not be so terrible, he said, it would probably work out fine. He spoke not with an air of alarm but philosophically and almost cheerfully, which took me aback.


The discussion of the topic in such a large, respected publication by a very experienced, intelligent and respected columnist is really a pretty big deal.

These thinking people are looking at what is going on and would not be surprised at all if a break up occurred.
Posted by Semaphore
a former French colony
Member since Jan 2013
275 posts
Posted on 8/1/14 at 8:34 am to
It should be. Partition is a viable solution to deep differences.

It's exactly what the Palestinians and their supporters are arguing for now.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95789 posts
Posted on 8/1/14 at 8:35 am to
quote:

These thinking people are looking at what is going on and would not be surprised at all if a break up occurred.


How long until we get walls along the borders of California, New York, Maryland, etc., in order to keep people in?
Posted by a want
I love everybody
Member since Oct 2010
19756 posts
Posted on 8/1/14 at 8:39 am to
quote:

It's exactly what the Palestinians and their supporters are arguing for now.

How's that working out
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27615 posts
Posted on 8/1/14 at 8:43 am to
When I read this title, I immediatly thought USA network was changing over to a mainstream news network.

For a brief second, I was terrified for the future of Monday Night RAW
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2007
12753 posts
Posted on 8/1/14 at 8:44 am to
In theory it may be a workable idea, but I don't see how it would work in real life. Say you had the country split into a conservative America and a liberal America, most of the southern states would go to the conservative side. What happens to the pockets of blue in a red state, like Atlanta? Would those people either have to move or just be satisfied with being a minority in their new country?

What if Florida decided it wanted to join with the liberal America? You would have hundreds of miles of another country dividing it from the rest of its home nation.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
98836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
39993 posts
Posted on 8/1/14 at 8:45 am to
Don't see two. Minimum three and possibly as many as eleven.

Eta: I will enjoy my citizenship in the Republic of Texadestin.
This post was edited on 8/1/14 at 8:47 am
Posted by Semaphore
a former French colony
Member since Jan 2013
275 posts
Posted on 8/1/14 at 8:45 am to
Not so hot.

The point is, if you support Palistine as a separate state you would have no room to bitch if say Texas became serious about being a separate state.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95789 posts
Posted on 8/1/14 at 8:47 am to
quote:

The point is, if you support Palistine as a separate state you would have no room to bitch if say Texas became serious about being a separate state.


I have a feeling that, the way things would work out, you'd have California lobbing rockets into Arizona for denying the "right of return" for any Hispanic who wants to be in Arizona.
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 8/1/14 at 9:26 am to
Yep, it's pretty much a red state vs blue state divide. A geopolitical separation might be better than what we are seeing now with liberal progressives imposing their will on conservatives.
Posted by tiger 56
Severn, MD
Member since Dec 2003
1684 posts
Posted on 8/1/14 at 9:33 am to
Why would the breakup be along state lines? If the nation breaks up along political boundaries, I don't think many of the states will survive without changes as well.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29395 posts
Posted on 8/1/14 at 9:36 am to
How is this Bobby Jindal's fault, IB?


I kid, I kid.
Posted by yumahog
Independence, Missouri
Member since Jun 2012
803 posts
Posted on 8/1/14 at 9:42 am to
Well, there is that new #secede billboard around Tuscaloosa.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95789 posts
Posted on 8/1/14 at 9:43 am to
quote:

Well, there is that new #secede billboard around Tuscaloosa.


You know that Bama fans are incapable of spelling "success" even when their team is enjoying it.
Posted by NikolaiJakov
Moscow
Member since Mar 2014
2803 posts
Posted on 8/1/14 at 9:44 am to
Sign me up for Texiana.
Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
Member since Oct 2007
13969 posts
Posted on 8/1/14 at 9:44 am to
I'd move to Texas / Tennessee.

frick living in Florida if they were their own country.
Posted by yumahog
Independence, Missouri
Member since Jun 2012
803 posts
Posted on 8/1/14 at 9:45 am to
Teke184, not the response I was looking for but funny nonetheless.
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
9246 posts
Posted on 8/1/14 at 9:47 am to
This is dumb. Is there not liberals in the South and Conservatives in the North? Splitting would solve nothing. Those countries would still have the same problems we face today and inevitably face their own split.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 8/1/14 at 9:49 am to
It's so nice of the WSJ to take pity on Noonan and still give her a column to spread her looniness.


Seriously, what happened to her? She used to be a pretty reasonable person.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95789 posts
Posted on 8/1/14 at 9:50 am to
quote:


Seriously, what happened to her? She used to be a pretty reasonable person.


When? Back in 2008 when she was slobbing Obama's knob?

Or in the 80s when she was a Reagan speechwriter?
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