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St. Louis beer and food recs
Posted on 7/29/14 at 7:45 pm
Posted on 7/29/14 at 7:45 pm
I'm taking my 11 year old son to St Louis the weekend of Aug 14-17 for a baseball series. We are staying downtown at Embassy Suites. I'm aware of several breweries in the downtown area, i.e. Perrenial, 4 Hands, Side Project, Schlafly, and plan on hitting them up.
My questions are, which of these brewpubs are kid friendly most of the time? (I understand things change after certain times). What are some solid restaurants downtown my son might enjoy also? We plan to go to the Hill sometime that weekend... what's the best place there? I've been to Charlie Gittos and a few others I don't remember. What are some bottle shops I need to hit up, and what breweries am I missing?
Paging TCO and Zappas
Tia anyone else.
My questions are, which of these brewpubs are kid friendly most of the time? (I understand things change after certain times). What are some solid restaurants downtown my son might enjoy also? We plan to go to the Hill sometime that weekend... what's the best place there? I've been to Charlie Gittos and a few others I don't remember. What are some bottle shops I need to hit up, and what breweries am I missing?
Paging TCO and Zappas
Tia anyone else.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 7:47 pm to Dannunzio
I've posted a lengthy St. Louis recs post which I'll copy in later. Definitely take your kid to Bailey's Range though. Awesome burgers, shakes, cocktails and beer.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 7:54 pm to Dannunzio
Make sure to make a pit stop on your way to Crown Valley. They have a brewery/distillery with some good stuff. They are in Ste. Genevieve which is about an hour south of STL.
If your a pizza fan try Pie Pizzeria for more of a restaurant style or Imos pizza for a STL staple which has buffet.
If your a pizza fan try Pie Pizzeria for more of a restaurant style or Imos pizza for a STL staple which has buffet.
This post was edited on 7/29/14 at 7:56 pm
Posted on 7/29/14 at 8:37 pm to Dannunzio
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Paging TCO and Zappas
I have a buddy that goes to St Louis once a year to visit the in laws so what little I know comes from him. Urban Chestnut is another local brewery to check out. Most breweries are kid friendly in the sense kids are allowed. But some offer sodas and the like for kids and some dont. I would just email them and ask.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 8:40 pm to Zappas Stache
You probably know this but you won't get any side project unless your trip coincides with one of their releases.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 8:53 pm to Zappas Stache
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Urban Chestnut
That's one I forgot about. Thanks.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 8:55 pm to hogfly
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You probably know this but you won't get any side project unless your trip coincides with one of their releases.
Did not know that. No big deal though. Makes sense I guess.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 8:57 pm to hogfly
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You probably know this but you won't get any side project unless your trip coincides with one of their releases.
Dammit!
Posted on 7/29/14 at 9:05 pm to LoneStarTiger
I had the exact same reaction when I was up there a month ago. First thing I told my buddy was that I wanted some Side Project. He laughed at me.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 9:23 pm to Dannunzio
As promised, here is my GREAT ST. LOUIS FOOD POST (tm).
We do periodic food trips up to St. Louis, so I'll just paste in some emails from my friend who lives up there and gives us recs. I apologize that he had linked URLs on a lot of these, so I'll just put the names of the places in parentheses where applicable. Also, it's a collection of emails, so it may be disjointed:
This place (Juniper) is doing the very much en vogue ‘southern’ style with a twist type of thing; we went and I loved it. The chef-owner was doing a series of pop-ups for a long while before finally going with a set name and a rotating menu. The menu here appears to be their newest one as it is slightly different from the one we had 2 months or so ago. Casual but need a reservation.
This place (The Tavern) is becoming a local ‘empire’ in a sense, in that they have three or four different places all under one ownership group. The Tavern does a lot of fish, which is nice. Last time we went I thought we had a fantastic meal. Also, it’s the only place on my list here not in the city (about 10 mins away from our house).
This place (Bahn Mi So #1) is our favorite Vietnamese, I believe K has already mentioned it to you. It’s a mom-n-pop type place and service is very slow. Pop runs the front and mom runs the kitchen, but it’s fantastic. It’s not glamorous in the least and the neighborhood is sorta bad also but, best curry shrimp I’ve ever had anywhere.
This place (Planter's House) we have not been to but it is owned by StL’s most prominent mixologist (I can’t believe I just typed that sentence…) and the reviews have been good. It is primarily cocktail oriented as you can imagine.
We haven’t been to this place (The Libertine) either however it also gets good reviews, again as a southern-type thing. Chef was displaced from NOLA following Katrina, wound up staying…
Blood and Sand This is a membership only place. They allow non-members to try it out once before they join. We haven't been yet but have heard all great things. They post no prices, but I could call and get the range. I'm assuming entrees $20-35.
Niche is great--same owner and chef as the Brasserie where we went the night before the wedding. This is their nicer place, "fine" dining. We've been a couple of times, but not for their Monday night thing. It's a pre-fixe 3-course meal for $35 a person. I've heard that Mondays are "fun".
Farmhaus (known for fish, hot chef in town)
BBQ has exploded in StL the last couple years (along with whiskey bars). Pappy’s sorta became a gold standard but, similar to Gerard Craft, they’ve had acoloytes go on to open their own, just as good (and not as crowded) establishments, like Bogart’s (which we prefer) and a brand new place called Adam’s Smokehouse.
Bogarts has awesome, awesome ribs and, strangely, pastrami, which is also fabulous. Adam’s apparently does their own salami, in addition to all the regular bbq items. Both guys worked at Pappy’s for a long time. We’ve not been to adam’s.
Another BBQ place I know that is not Pappy’s related at all is called Southtown Pub, basically up the street from where we used to be in the city. They do BBQ and oysters. BBQ was very good the one time I went, no idea on the oysters.
There's also the Fountain on Locust. We could take the boys for Vietnamese if you think they'll like that. In Maplewood there's a new place called Strange Donuts that might be fun to pop in, and there's a little pie place right next door to that. There are a half dozen or more really good local breweries here now, too--some are family friendly and have small menus of good food. Also there are a couple of delis that are very good if we just need a sandwich one day.
Other possibly good kid thing is Bailey’s Range. Another outpost in one of our local, StL restaurant empires. Basically they do everything in house, burgers and ice cream/milkshakes, plus craft soda, booze, etc. Not our favorite burgers (altho they are pretty good, just overcooked) but seems like the type of place a kid would like.
For The Hill we went with an upstart rather than the old stalwarts: Anthonino's Taverna. It was really good. Does some Greek as well.
Also ate at Rooster which is part of Bailey's empire. It was great. Only open for brunch and lunch.
We do periodic food trips up to St. Louis, so I'll just paste in some emails from my friend who lives up there and gives us recs. I apologize that he had linked URLs on a lot of these, so I'll just put the names of the places in parentheses where applicable. Also, it's a collection of emails, so it may be disjointed:
This place (Juniper) is doing the very much en vogue ‘southern’ style with a twist type of thing; we went and I loved it. The chef-owner was doing a series of pop-ups for a long while before finally going with a set name and a rotating menu. The menu here appears to be their newest one as it is slightly different from the one we had 2 months or so ago. Casual but need a reservation.
This place (The Tavern) is becoming a local ‘empire’ in a sense, in that they have three or four different places all under one ownership group. The Tavern does a lot of fish, which is nice. Last time we went I thought we had a fantastic meal. Also, it’s the only place on my list here not in the city (about 10 mins away from our house).
This place (Bahn Mi So #1) is our favorite Vietnamese, I believe K has already mentioned it to you. It’s a mom-n-pop type place and service is very slow. Pop runs the front and mom runs the kitchen, but it’s fantastic. It’s not glamorous in the least and the neighborhood is sorta bad also but, best curry shrimp I’ve ever had anywhere.
This place (Planter's House) we have not been to but it is owned by StL’s most prominent mixologist (I can’t believe I just typed that sentence…) and the reviews have been good. It is primarily cocktail oriented as you can imagine.
We haven’t been to this place (The Libertine) either however it also gets good reviews, again as a southern-type thing. Chef was displaced from NOLA following Katrina, wound up staying…
Blood and Sand This is a membership only place. They allow non-members to try it out once before they join. We haven't been yet but have heard all great things. They post no prices, but I could call and get the range. I'm assuming entrees $20-35.
Niche is great--same owner and chef as the Brasserie where we went the night before the wedding. This is their nicer place, "fine" dining. We've been a couple of times, but not for their Monday night thing. It's a pre-fixe 3-course meal for $35 a person. I've heard that Mondays are "fun".
Farmhaus (known for fish, hot chef in town)
BBQ has exploded in StL the last couple years (along with whiskey bars). Pappy’s sorta became a gold standard but, similar to Gerard Craft, they’ve had acoloytes go on to open their own, just as good (and not as crowded) establishments, like Bogart’s (which we prefer) and a brand new place called Adam’s Smokehouse.
Bogarts has awesome, awesome ribs and, strangely, pastrami, which is also fabulous. Adam’s apparently does their own salami, in addition to all the regular bbq items. Both guys worked at Pappy’s for a long time. We’ve not been to adam’s.
Another BBQ place I know that is not Pappy’s related at all is called Southtown Pub, basically up the street from where we used to be in the city. They do BBQ and oysters. BBQ was very good the one time I went, no idea on the oysters.
There's also the Fountain on Locust. We could take the boys for Vietnamese if you think they'll like that. In Maplewood there's a new place called Strange Donuts that might be fun to pop in, and there's a little pie place right next door to that. There are a half dozen or more really good local breweries here now, too--some are family friendly and have small menus of good food. Also there are a couple of delis that are very good if we just need a sandwich one day.
Other possibly good kid thing is Bailey’s Range. Another outpost in one of our local, StL restaurant empires. Basically they do everything in house, burgers and ice cream/milkshakes, plus craft soda, booze, etc. Not our favorite burgers (altho they are pretty good, just overcooked) but seems like the type of place a kid would like.
For The Hill we went with an upstart rather than the old stalwarts: Anthonino's Taverna. It was really good. Does some Greek as well.
Also ate at Rooster which is part of Bailey's empire. It was great. Only open for brunch and lunch.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 9:26 pm to hogfly
I've personally eaten at Bahn Mi So, Rooster, Bailey's Range, Farmhaus, Braiserrie, Niche, and Anthonino's. They're all great.
With kids, I would HIGHLY recommend Anthonino's (for your mandatory stop in the Hill) and Bailey's Range. We found both to be extremely kid friendly, and our boys enjoyed the experience (tell them Anthonino's was on DDD).
With kids, I would HIGHLY recommend Anthonino's (for your mandatory stop in the Hill) and Bailey's Range. We found both to be extremely kid friendly, and our boys enjoyed the experience (tell them Anthonino's was on DDD).
Posted on 7/29/14 at 9:34 pm to Dannunzio
Crown Candy Kitchen - great for kids and a St. Louis institution. Get there when they open or be prepared to wait.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 9:35 pm to Miz Piggy
And if you don't take your kids to City Museum, then you aren't fit to be a parent.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 9:39 pm to hogfly
Ted Drewes, too. Is it obvious I really like desserts?
Posted on 7/29/14 at 9:42 pm to Miz Piggy
My wife is from St. Louis. We go back periodically, but this is the first time we've hit Ted Drewes since her father died (Ted Drewes was an anchorpoint of her childhood). She had a near spiritual experience there. Absolutely overwhelmed by nostalgia to the point that she couldn't move for a bit and was just dumbstruck. Pretty awesome experience to have some little ice cream joint do that to a person.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 9:48 pm to hogfly
<------WashU grad. Don't get back very often, but when we do, I have a hard time going anywhere other than the few places I remember as a student. Ted Drewes was a frequent delivery to the campus whenever a group actually wanted people to attend their meetings.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 9:55 pm to Miz Piggy
We're fortunate in that our good friends who still live there are huge foodies and boozies (I'm coining that), so our trips center around that. The StL food/beverage/coffee scene is amazing right now.
Feast Magazine does a great job of documenting it.
Feast Magazine does a great job of documenting it.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:11 pm to Dannunzio
There have already been some great food recs, so I'll just talk about beer...the only food rec I'll give is to stay the frick away from Imo's pizza.
Perrenial is my favorite brewery to visit in StL. It's not in the best area of town, but it's a nice building and nice setup. If the weather's nice, it's great to sit outside drink some beer and snack.
Schlafly is alright. I'm not the biggest fan of their beer and the food is just OK.
Urban Chestnut is a cool tap room, but I'm not sure how kid friendly it is. You may have to call to see if they even let kids in.
4Hands is in a warehouse and not the best area from what I remember. It has some pretty good beers, but I wouldn't take a kid there.
Don't laugh, but If you have time, I would go to the Budweiser brewery. I think it's free and, even if you don't drink the beer, it's pretty cool to see. The Clydesdale stable is cool and they've put all this state of the art equipment in to awesome century old red brick warehouses. It's like Willa Wonka built a beer factory...when I went, they had 10+ Amish kids sitting in the welcome center with no parents.
Wine and Cheese place is a great beer store. The owners were real cool and helpful. It's close to Libertine, which is a kickass restaurant.
I haven't been, but the guy I go visit in StL says 33 Beer Shop is the shite.
International Tap House is a really cool spot in Soulard. 30-40 beers on tap and a shite load of bottles. I don't know if they allow kids though.
When you go to the Hill, find a place that has Bocce ball and play with your son while talking like a wop(I'm allowed to say this, I'm Italian)
If your kid is in to it, St Louis has a great Zoo.
Perrenial is my favorite brewery to visit in StL. It's not in the best area of town, but it's a nice building and nice setup. If the weather's nice, it's great to sit outside drink some beer and snack.
Schlafly is alright. I'm not the biggest fan of their beer and the food is just OK.
Urban Chestnut is a cool tap room, but I'm not sure how kid friendly it is. You may have to call to see if they even let kids in.
4Hands is in a warehouse and not the best area from what I remember. It has some pretty good beers, but I wouldn't take a kid there.
Don't laugh, but If you have time, I would go to the Budweiser brewery. I think it's free and, even if you don't drink the beer, it's pretty cool to see. The Clydesdale stable is cool and they've put all this state of the art equipment in to awesome century old red brick warehouses. It's like Willa Wonka built a beer factory...when I went, they had 10+ Amish kids sitting in the welcome center with no parents.
Wine and Cheese place is a great beer store. The owners were real cool and helpful. It's close to Libertine, which is a kickass restaurant.
I haven't been, but the guy I go visit in StL says 33 Beer Shop is the shite.
International Tap House is a really cool spot in Soulard. 30-40 beers on tap and a shite load of bottles. I don't know if they allow kids though.
When you go to the Hill, find a place that has Bocce ball and play with your son while talking like a wop(I'm allowed to say this, I'm Italian)
If your kid is in to it, St Louis has a great Zoo.
This post was edited on 7/29/14 at 10:12 pm
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:17 pm to hogfly
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The StL food/beverage/coffee scene is amazing right now.
Feast Magazine does a great job of documenting it.
This!
I don't think outsiders realize how cool a town St Louis has become in the last few years. I've actually had people say, "what the frick?" when I told them I was excited about going back to St Louis. It's not the same town it was 10-30 years ago...though you can still see a lot of the plight.
My brother in law goes to SLU and I love going to visit him.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:31 pm to TheChosenOne
The guy that owns range and rooster does the food at 4hands. He also has a beer and wine place called the bridge. Just down the block from rooster. Rooster is insanely packed on Sunday mornings, but they do a good job of turning tables.
Libertine is great. I had great meal there a few weeks ago.
Someone mentioned the wine and cheese place as a good beer store. It is. There is also a store in Clayton called craft beer cellar. I really like that place.
Alpha brewing is downtown also, and they do some really good stuff. My fave is probably four hands though.
Civil life is a little ways from downtown, but it's a cool place. They do mostly low abv beers.
Pi pizzeria is good deep dish, but I like their thin crust better. There are multiple locations. And if you want to try a bunch of different craft beers but not drag your son to all the breweries, they have a good selection.
If I think of more stuff, I'll add it later.
Eta- if you go to the city museum, there is a $5 lot right off Washington ave kind of behind the museum. It's usually not full, and it happens to be right by alpha brewing.
Libertine is great. I had great meal there a few weeks ago.
Someone mentioned the wine and cheese place as a good beer store. It is. There is also a store in Clayton called craft beer cellar. I really like that place.
Alpha brewing is downtown also, and they do some really good stuff. My fave is probably four hands though.
Civil life is a little ways from downtown, but it's a cool place. They do mostly low abv beers.
Pi pizzeria is good deep dish, but I like their thin crust better. There are multiple locations. And if you want to try a bunch of different craft beers but not drag your son to all the breweries, they have a good selection.
If I think of more stuff, I'll add it later.
Eta- if you go to the city museum, there is a $5 lot right off Washington ave kind of behind the museum. It's usually not full, and it happens to be right by alpha brewing.
This post was edited on 7/29/14 at 10:35 pm
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