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St. Elmo's Fire
Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:33 pm
Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:33 pm
I hear a lot of disagreement over this one, what say the Movie board?
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:38 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:43 pm to Draconian Sanctions
borderline unwatchable. Just bad. Great song though!
Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:48 pm to REG861
Great 80s jam. 
Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:23 am to Draconian Sanctions
Not that bad. Some aspects are timeless. Some of it, of course, is just cheesy 80's "friends forever" sentimentality.
Demi will always look that young in my mind.
Demi will always look that young in my mind.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 8:03 am to Draconian Sanctions
Terrible.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 8:31 am to Draconian Sanctions
I liked the brat pack, but I disliked St. Elmo's Fire.
A brat pack take on The Big Chill - yet way too early, they just got to college - they haven't learned anything. It evokes neither the sincere angst and humanity of The Breakfast Club, nor the bittersweet nostalgia of The Big Chill.
Schumacher takes a lot of the criticism for this film's failings, but I think it was a weak story - a good idea, badly executed by everyone. The acting was quite tepid, and the kids all knew each other very well so there was no excuse for the lack of chemistry.
Again - maybe Schumacher was to blame (he wrote it, too) - this was only his third feature, but the film before this, D.C. Cab was great, as was the film he directed immediately after this one - The Lost Boys.
I think it was just one of those things - it happens.
A brat pack take on The Big Chill - yet way too early, they just got to college - they haven't learned anything. It evokes neither the sincere angst and humanity of The Breakfast Club, nor the bittersweet nostalgia of The Big Chill.
Schumacher takes a lot of the criticism for this film's failings, but I think it was a weak story - a good idea, badly executed by everyone. The acting was quite tepid, and the kids all knew each other very well so there was no excuse for the lack of chemistry.
Again - maybe Schumacher was to blame (he wrote it, too) - this was only his third feature, but the film before this, D.C. Cab was great, as was the film he directed immediately after this one - The Lost Boys.
I think it was just one of those things - it happens.
This post was edited on 7/23/14 at 8:33 am
Posted on 7/23/14 at 8:34 am to REG861
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Great song though!
I've been humming it in my head ever since I saw this thread title earlier this morning. I'm clicking the link now in hopes that I can get it out of my head..
Weirdly enough, it's also led me to "Chariots of Fire" and that's been in and out of my head all morning too.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 9:10 am to Draconian Sanctions
top 5 80s song
Posted on 7/23/14 at 9:51 am to donRANDOMnumbers
Film that was trying very hard to cash in on the Big Chill / Breakfast Club phenomenon.
Hit some good notes. I was a year or two older than the characters so it hit home here and there.
Rob Lowe trying to go back to his fraternity was pretty funny. Judd Nelson trying to the adult was spot on for a lot of guys that I knew then.
Hit some good notes. I was a year or two older than the characters so it hit home here and there.
Rob Lowe trying to go back to his fraternity was pretty funny. Judd Nelson trying to the adult was spot on for a lot of guys that I knew then.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 9:51 am to Draconian Sanctions
The creepiness of Emilio Estevez's pursuit of Andie McDowell almost completely ruined the movie for me. Absolutely cringe-inducing, which was the point, but I thought it was too much.
Also, overall, I get that post college years can be a difficult transition for many, but damn what losers these characters were. Too over the top for a collection of Georgetown graduates during the economic boom of the 80s. It's too big of a leap for me to think that crew would be struggling at that level.
Also, overall, I get that post college years can be a difficult transition for many, but damn what losers these characters were. Too over the top for a collection of Georgetown graduates during the economic boom of the 80s. It's too big of a leap for me to think that crew would be struggling at that level.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:21 am to MetArl15
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The creepiness of Emilio Estevez's pursuit of Andie McDowell
I found Andrew McCarthy to be far creepier.
But he was just a creepy guy in general.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:43 am to MetArl15
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but damn what losers these characters were. Too over the top for a collection of Georgetown graduates during the economic boom of the 80s. It's too big of a leap for me to think that crew would be struggling at that level.
Pretty much this. Working as waiters, saxophone player in a bar, secretary/whore...etc.
This made zero sense in the economic boom of the 80's as GEORGETOWN grads.
And no way in hell Rob Lowe's character ever made it through Georgetown - let alone got in.
And what's the point of the fat chick? To throw in one character that might actually have graduated from Georgetown in real life???
This post was edited on 7/23/14 at 10:44 am
Posted on 7/23/14 at 11:03 am to Zamoro10
it has not aged well and is laughably bad in large sections
Posted on 7/23/14 at 11:13 am to PowerTool
They should remake it as a 1 hour drama series. Still set in the 80s. Would be awesome.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 11:29 am to Draconian Sanctions
While I have always loved it, I admit my opinion is very subjective based on my age and place when I saw it, being a kid of the 80s. I think in context a lot of the random goofiness isn't as bad. The storyline suffered in many aspects probably because it was meant to be character driven.
Biggest flaw: more backstory on the group and their bonds would have made the viewer more invested and involved.
Biggest flaw: more backstory on the group and their bonds would have made the viewer more invested and involved.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:04 pm to Draconian Sanctions
I liked it, but I grew up around that time. Demi Moore never looked hotter.
I think this was the movie that ended Judd Nelson's career. He got in a feud with John Hughes and never recovered.
I think this was the movie that ended Judd Nelson's career. He got in a feud with John Hughes and never recovered.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:13 pm to UL-SabanRival
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I think this was the movie that ended Judd Nelson's career. He got in a feud with John Hughes and never recovered.
Nelson was over because that era was over...they were all basically over...except sporadically - Emilio b/c of his family connections. Ally Sheedy, Andrew McCarthy, Rob Lowe...
Demi Moore was never part of the Brat Pack so she doesn't count...and Rob Lowe disappeared (with brief villain bits in Wayne's World and Tommy Boy) until West Wing and Parks and Rec.
Btw, Judd Nelson's sole film to try and prove he was a Hollywood star and could carry a film by himself without an ensemble...is actually pretty decent and underrated..."From the Hip."
If Hollywood wanted him, he could have rebounded...after his role in New Jack City (1991) - but he wasn't good enough of a star.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 1:49 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Mare Winningham's scuba gear. 
Posted on 7/23/14 at 3:22 pm to Zamoro10
Disagree. Lowe ended because he filmed himself screwing a 16 year old. From the Hip was good, but you forgot about Making the Grade, which was not high quality but I liked it. Moore is considered by most to be a brat packer.
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