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Anyone else find this stuff scary?
Posted on 7/16/14 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 7/16/14 at 2:58 pm
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Nick Duvernay grew up in Ocean Springs. His family said he loved the water and was an avid diver, fishermen and spear fisher. Last Sunday, he spent the day on the water with his family. Duvernay's sister, Sarah Duvernay Montgomery, said she never imagined that day on the water would lead to his death.
Tuesday, an Ocean Springs family laid to rest their beloved son, brother, and uncle. Nick Duvernay died just days after coming into contact with the flesh eating bacteria Vibrio vulnificus, during a fishing trip in the Gulf.
Dr. David Spencer, Sr. has seen a lot of Vibrio vulnificus over the years.
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"We all got to spend the day as a family and had a blast doing what he loved," Montgomery remembered. "He got to fish and spend time with my son, who was just his world. I'm really thankful that that was one of his last days because it was a great day."
Montgomery said her brother wasn't feeling well Sunday after getting off the boat. But he's suffered from back problems for years, and just thought it was the same old problem.
The next day, Monday, she said Duvernay began throwing up. Tuesday, he came down with a bad fever and was feeling dizzy. By Wednesday, Montgomery said her brother began having chest pains and could not breathe, so his fiancee rushed him to the hospital.
"At first they said congestive heart failure, because he had a lot of fluid on his belly and on his legs," Montgomery said. "He had problems with high blood pressure for a long time and he had left it untreated, unfortunately, so I believe his organs were already in a weakened state."
Doctors noticed Duvernay was having kidney failure and Montgomery said they admitted him to the ICU Wednesday night. Doctors drained some of the fluid from his stomach, but had to stop because his blood pressure was dropping too low.
Things continually got worse, according to Montgomery.
"His leg kept swelling and his leg actually started to burst open, the back of his leg," Montgomery explained. "They realized then they were dealing with something much scarier than they thought at first."
Montgomery said doctors told the family Duvernay's kidneys were shutting down and he had an infection in his blood. Thursday morning, Duvernay had surgery on his leg to try and remove the infection, but things continued to take a turn for the worst.
"We were told the worst case is he would pass or he might possibly lose his leg, but even then we weren't really thinking he was going to die from this," Montgomery said.
By 2pm Thursday, Montgomery said doctors advised the family that if anyone wanted to see Duvernay, they better come now. Duvernay began having liver failure, his respiratory system was shutting down, and he was on a ventilator.
Eight hours later, the family's worst nightmare came true when Nick Duvernay passed away.
Still in shock, Montgomery wants to warn everyone who swims in the Gulf of Mexico.
"If you are going to go out there and be in the water, just make sure you don't have any cuts on you, especially if you have a weaker immune system like Nick did from being sick," Montgomery said. "If you get cut out there, go in immediately. Don't let this go and hope for the best, because within four days my brother was dead."
Another guy almost died recently after a fishing trip out near Cat Island and he never even got in the water. Only from reaching into the bait bucket LINK
Posted on 7/16/14 at 3:06 pm to Sofa King Crimson
scary scary... but what do you do? Live your life in a shell and not go in the water. For every person that gets this there are thousands who dont, i wonder what makes this virus pick and choose who gets sick
Posted on 7/16/14 at 3:10 pm to oleyeller
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scary scary... but what do you do?
Same thoughts here. I know that any shrimp prick I get could lead to vibrio. but it's not like I'm gonna live afraid of it.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 3:11 pm to oleyeller
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scary scary... but what do you do? Live your life in a shell and not go in the water. For every person that gets this there are thousands who dont,
You're obviously right, and it will not really affect my fishing/swimming habits but it's still scary.
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i wonder what makes this virus pick and choose who gets sick
That's the scary part, I guess. Probably just when "it" finds a person who happens to have a weakened immune system at the time.
This post was edited on 7/16/14 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 7/16/14 at 3:14 pm to oleyeller
Friend of my moms got it a year or 2 ago in GI and almost lost her leg. Pretty scary stuff, but like everything else in life, there's a chance something could go wrong. Understand the consequences and do your best to prevent them, and you will be okay.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 3:15 pm to Sofa King Crimson
Hand sanitizer to clean any cuts and triple antiobotic ointment to cover the wound.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 3:18 pm to AutoYes_Clown
Carry bleach in your boat. Especially if you have cuts or scrapes.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 3:19 pm to AutoYes_Clown
Don't go into the water if you have any open wounds and you will be fine. If you have no cuts the bacteria cannot enter your body.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 3:20 pm to DanTiger
It scares me a little. But I'm not going to give up fishing because of it. Just makes me more cautious and prepared.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 3:22 pm to Sofa King Crimson
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.....especially if you have a weaker immune system like Nick did.....
I think from all the reading last year, and from this, that this is the key.
It seems people with health issues and low immune systems are the ones that are at a serious risk.
I haven't seen many instances where a healthy individual became deathly sick from this bacteria. But like everyone has says, you have to be careful is you have cuts or get cut.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 3:26 pm to DanTiger
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Don't go into the water if you have any open wounds and you will be fine. If you have no cuts the bacteria cannot enter your body.
This. However, there is always the chance of getting a cut during your trip.
Vibrio tends to get those who already have compromised immune systems so if you know that you are at risk, take extra precaution. This shite hits hard and fast.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 3:30 pm to Throbinhood
Posted on 7/16/14 at 3:30 pm to MWP
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Vibrio tends to get those who already have compromised immune systems so if you know that you are at risk, take extra precaution. This shite hits hard and fast.
what precautions can be taken? If you have an open wound and you are exposed because of a cut will cleaning the wound out after do any good? If you go wade fishing all day with an open wound is there anything you can do?
Posted on 7/16/14 at 3:33 pm to AutoYes_Clown
The biggest prevention of death from this bacteria is a quick and accurate diagnosis followed by by immediate intervention. ER physicians(especially the ones around the gulf coast) should already know the signs and symptoms related to vibrio. When paired with recent gulf water exposure, aggressive antibiotic therapy can't be delayed. It seems that many of the cases I've read about were initially mis-diagnosed. Delays in treating this bacteria almost always end badly.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 3:35 pm to DanTiger
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If you have no cuts the bacteria cannot enter your body.
This is false. Exposure can occur from swallowing water. It's the same as with eating raw oysters.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 3:38 pm to GRIZZ
cant you get it if you swallow water or it goes up your nose also?
Posted on 7/16/14 at 3:39 pm to GRIZZ
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This is false. Exposure can occur from swallowing water. It's the same as with eating raw oysters.
I know this but assumed most won't be ingesting salt water while fishing.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 3:39 pm to DanTiger
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If you have no cuts the bacteria cannot enter your body.
Infection can still get in through eyes, nose, throat....
But those areas do have a higher defense than an open wound.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 3:41 pm to GRIZZ
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The biggest prevention of death from this bacteria is a quick and accurate diagnosis followed by by immediate intervention.
So are there no preventative measures that can be taken outside of a hospital visit once symptoms show up? I am asking because I am going fishing in Grand Isle with a few kids in a few weeks and I know everybody is going to be wade fishing in the water all day whether they have cuts or not.
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