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GOT (book readers) (equation redacted) video pretty interesting. (No-hodors)
Posted on 7/16/14 at 12:31 am
Posted on 7/16/14 at 12:31 am
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Jon Snow may know nothing when it comes to his parentage, but a few "Game of Thrones" conspiracy theorists think they do.
If you've read the books, trolled Wikipedia, or kept scrolling past spoiler warnings, you're probably already clued in to one of the biggest mysteries surrounding "A Song of Ice and Fire": Where does Jon Snow really come from? The true origins of Ned Stark's illegitimate son have yet to be revealed by George R.R. Martin, even to Kit Harington, the man playing Snow in the HBO series, but that doesn't mean some die-hard "GoT" fans can't take an educated guess.
YouTube user Alt Shift X has done some award-worthy investigative reporting and created this handy video -- because a normal family tree graph just wouldn't do -- illustrating the true lineage of the Watcher on the Wall. Take a look, but be prepared to have your mind blown. Oh, and it should go without saying (but we'll say it anyway) possible spoilers ahead.
This post was edited on 7/16/14 at 1:28 pm
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Posted on 7/16/14 at 12:50 am to Napoleon
I would remove the R+L=J from the title...its a bit of a spoiler even as musing.
And I am convinced that the only way it is revealed not to be true is if GRRM is having a bitch fest that people figured out his big secret and changed it after the fact.
It is foreshadowed from literally the first couple of pages of the book/
And I am convinced that the only way it is revealed not to be true is if GRRM is having a bitch fest that people figured out his big secret and changed it after the fact.
It is foreshadowed from literally the first couple of pages of the book/
Posted on 7/16/14 at 12:58 am to Volvagia
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And I am convinced that the only way it is revealed not to be true is if GRRM is having a bitch fest that people figured out his big secret and changed it after the fact.
And that itself really isn't some thing that will likely happen because he obviously expects readers to figure it out. The first thing he asked the show runners when they wanted to make the show on HBO was who Jon's real parents were. Hard to get pissy when he wants everyone to know it.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 1:46 am to Napoleon
I couldn't sit through all that
Posted on 7/16/14 at 2:25 am to Napoleon
Dude that equation is not hard to figure out. I like you, I don't want to see you banned. 
better change it
better change it 
Posted on 7/16/14 at 3:08 am to Napoleon
Im drawing a blank. Who are his parents in the theory? I'm not sitting through all of that.
Nevermind...I remember now
Nevermind...I remember now
This post was edited on 7/16/14 at 3:14 am
Posted on 7/16/14 at 6:30 am to NawlinsTiger9
I mean R+L=J seems like it has to be true, but my question is who is still alive who would even know? maybe Selmy?
Posted on 7/16/14 at 7:32 am to Tiger1242
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I mean R+L=J seems like it has to be true, but my question is who is still alive who would even know? maybe Selmy?
I think the conventional wisdom is Howland Reed.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 7:49 am to Methuselah
Pretty sure Benjen knows too but he's still missing.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 8:03 am to Methuselah
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I think the conventional wisdom is Howland Reed.
This theory is what drove me to become a reader. I developed it while still a Hodor, binge watching Season 1.
Discussion of the theory, based solely on the television series and the DVD extras, drives the Hodors insane, because knowledge and speculation are like kryptonite to them.
But, Howland Reed appears to be the only survivor of the battle at the Tower of Joy. Fat Man has indicated he expects him to make an appearance in the novels.
So, there you go...
This post was edited on 7/16/14 at 8:04 am
Posted on 7/16/14 at 8:04 am to ladytiger118
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Pretty sure Benjen knows too but he's still missing.
Benjen is almost certainly Cold Hands.
He's still missing in the television series.
ETA: Benjen hasn't been officially revealed as Cold Hands - and is still officially missing in the books.
This post was edited on 7/16/14 at 8:09 am
Posted on 7/16/14 at 8:06 am to Volvagia
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And I am convinced that the only way it is revealed not to be true is if GRRM is having a bitch fest that people figured out his big secret and changed it after the fact.
Agreed. And if he does that, he's an idiot. It will completely change the story--probably for the worse--which is all he should be concerned about. Who gives a damn if people found out about it? Whose fault is that? What the hell else are people going to do in the near TWENTY YEARS it's taken you to get five books out?
Posted on 7/16/14 at 8:11 am to LoveThatMoney
It has to be r+l=j - doesn't it?
I mean the entire series is a Song of Ice and Fire. John Snow as the product of that union would be the literal incarnation of that.
The only thing that made me doubt it, a little, is his injury by fire - but, Dany is the last dragon, so maybe that makes sense.
I'm not caught up with the books (and, hell, who could be who hasn't been reading for years?) - so, I'll adjust as I go.
None of the other theories of JS's parentage pass the smell test.
I mean the entire series is a Song of Ice and Fire. John Snow as the product of that union would be the literal incarnation of that.
The only thing that made me doubt it, a little, is his injury by fire - but, Dany is the last dragon, so maybe that makes sense.
I'm not caught up with the books (and, hell, who could be who hasn't been reading for years?) - so, I'll adjust as I go.
None of the other theories of JS's parentage pass the smell test.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 8:21 am to Ace Midnight
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The only thing that made me doubt it, a little, is his injury by fire - but, Dany is the last dragon, so maybe that makes sense. I'm not caught up with the books (and, hell, who could be who hasn't been reading for years?) - so, I'll adjust as I go.
Dany isn't immune to fire. You'll realize that once you are caught up. When you do, go back and read last Dany's chapter in AGoT.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 8:36 am to Ace Midnight
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Benjen is almost certainly Cold Hands.
Thats what I thought at first but now I don't think he is
Posted on 7/16/14 at 8:43 am to thatguy1892
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Dany isn't immune to fire
This. THere's a huge misconception from the tv show that Dany survived the funeral pyre because she is a Targaryen. It's because of blood magic, not some genetic immunity to fire.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 8:44 am to Tiger1242
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who is still alive who would even know?
Howland. Reed.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 8:45 am to Josh Fenderman
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This. THere's a huge misconception from the tv show that Dany survived the funeral pyre because she is a Targaryen. It's because of blood magic, not some genetic immunity to fire.
How'd she pick up the scalding hot dragon eggs?
This post was edited on 7/16/14 at 8:46 am
Posted on 7/16/14 at 8:51 am to SetTheMood
Was hoping for something new in the video but no luck. Coldhands is said to be very old and died a long time ago. Crackpot thread has ruled that he is not Benjen
Possible characters that know this are Benjen and Howland Reed, Meera and Jojen(who is evidently now paste), and I'm assuming Bloodraven.
Possible characters that know this are Benjen and Howland Reed, Meera and Jojen(who is evidently now paste), and I'm assuming Bloodraven.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 8:54 am to Ace Midnight
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Benjen is almost certainly Cold Hands.
no chance in hell
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