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Spinoff of "Fix Baton Rouge": Designated Park n Ride Hubs
Posted on 7/14/14 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 7/14/14 at 12:19 pm
IF, and a big IF, there was federal/state tax/grant money to help fund this, would it help at all with 10/12 congestion?
The idea is designated Employee Hubs around the City use a system of Park/Ride from AP and LP with perks for riders AND Employers who push the program. And conceivably use airport type shuttles for ONLY employees working in the hub. And further, what if they were required for employees living OUTSIDE EBR or pay a higher parking fee?
Ideas I had for 3 hubs would be
1. Downtown(+ Honeywell, Exxon,etc)
2. OLOL/BR General/Mall of La/United Plaza
3. WBR plants
Possibly adding one for LSU/SU/BRCC students as well.
Just wondering if something like this has ever been successful?
The idea is designated Employee Hubs around the City use a system of Park/Ride from AP and LP with perks for riders AND Employers who push the program. And conceivably use airport type shuttles for ONLY employees working in the hub. And further, what if they were required for employees living OUTSIDE EBR or pay a higher parking fee?
Ideas I had for 3 hubs would be
1. Downtown(+ Honeywell, Exxon,etc)
2. OLOL/BR General/Mall of La/United Plaza
3. WBR plants
Possibly adding one for LSU/SU/BRCC students as well.
Just wondering if something like this has ever been successful?
This post was edited on 7/14/14 at 12:22 pm
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Posted on 7/14/14 at 12:22 pm to mikelbr
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perks for riders
how would you do that?
most of the plant workers make enough money to not bother trying to save a few bucks on gas
eta: maybe, just maybe if there was a HOV/Bus lane but i don't see it happening
also, traffic isn't bad if you have to be at work before 7
This post was edited on 7/14/14 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 7/14/14 at 12:24 pm to Croacka
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how would you do that? most of the plant workers make enough money to not bother trying to save a few bucks on gas
Ahh I modified it. Not only perks but almost a TAX for employees in EBR who live outside the parish. Charge for parking at these facilities, etc.
I'm just starting a convo. I'm no expert. Let's brainstorm.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 12:26 pm to mikelbr
It would be a failure like Houston.
Throw in a bunch of lanes just for these high volume vehicles where the cops are stopping lane violators every hundred yards. The main lanes of traffic slow down because a cop is on the side of the road with his lights on.
Throw in a bunch of lanes just for these high volume vehicles where the cops are stopping lane violators every hundred yards. The main lanes of traffic slow down because a cop is on the side of the road with his lights on.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 12:29 pm to mikelbr
The idea came from watching WC Final yesterday and realizing there's no parking around that stadium. So, you take something desirable(big game, place of employment) and you make attendees compromise their luxury of driving to and from it.
LSU has increasingly done this with shuttles and parking fees. Why not employee hubs start pricing out parking spaces and adopt shuttles?
LSU has increasingly done this with shuttles and parking fees. Why not employee hubs start pricing out parking spaces and adopt shuttles?
Posted on 7/14/14 at 12:30 pm to Croacka
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traffic isn't bad if you have to be at work before 7
Posted on 7/14/14 at 12:30 pm to TigerFred
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It would be a failure like Houston. Throw in a bunch of lanes just for these high volume vehicles where the cops are stopping lane violators every hundred yards. The main lanes of traffic slow down because a cop is on the side of the road with his lights on.
Houston tried it? It doesn't help? Maybe BR is small enough to do it with just Juban Road and hwy 30 as park an ride spots?
see that's what I was wondering. If an IT nerd thought of it, it had to have been tried somewhere before.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 12:31 pm to mikelbr
they used to have this in Kenner. My parents would take the park and ride bus sometimes because it dropped them off on Loyola by their work and picked them up on our Loyola.
So it worked great.
So it worked great.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 12:33 pm to GrammarKnotsi
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traffic isn't bad if you have to be at work before 7
Okay let's say shifts at exxon are 6-6 for simplicity(I know ours are different). BUT. I carpooled years ago and wasn't for traffic, it was for miles, gas, napping an hour in the car, etc.
So a step further like with perks. What if Exxon gave some free meals and 2 extra vacation days a year to employees who used shuttle 3 times a week?
Again just an idea to have fewer cars on the interstates.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 12:33 pm to mikelbr
Down side of this. I still have to own a car and drive to a parking lot, say blue bayou or the faigrounds.
Now, I have to time it perfect or I will be stuck waiting on the bus for it to depart or show up.
I get near work, not to work, because it is a hub not a direct drop off. I am walking a mile or two in BR heat? frick that.
As it is now, I still own a car and ride in A/C the entire time to my job. Worst cast commute from AP to BR and back is 1hr. This saves maybe 15minutes and comes with all the negatives.
Now, I have to time it perfect or I will be stuck waiting on the bus for it to depart or show up.
I get near work, not to work, because it is a hub not a direct drop off. I am walking a mile or two in BR heat? frick that.
As it is now, I still own a car and ride in A/C the entire time to my job. Worst cast commute from AP to BR and back is 1hr. This saves maybe 15minutes and comes with all the negatives.
This post was edited on 7/14/14 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 7/14/14 at 12:34 pm to mikelbr
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So a step further like with perks. What if Exxon gave some free meals and 2 extra vacation days a year to employees who used shuttle 3 times a week?
So you are asking employers to fund this?
Posted on 7/14/14 at 12:35 pm to fightin tigers
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Down side of this. I still have to own a car and drive to a parking lot, say blue bayou of the faigrounds.
What if your employer started charging $100 a month for parking if you didn't use it? or $10 a day for special days(gotta get kids after school, dr aptpt). I'm not saying this would be easy or fun for everyone. I'm wondering if a government SHOULD impose a tax on employees driving to EBR for work.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 12:36 pm to mikelbr
BRT line from downtown BR to atleast the Cortana Mall area maybe all the way to LP.
Another BRT line from the MOL to airport running down perkins to acadian thruway, connect to plank road and end close to the airport.
Another BRT line from the MOL to airport running down perkins to acadian thruway, connect to plank road and end close to the airport.
This post was edited on 7/14/14 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 7/14/14 at 12:38 pm to mikelbr
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What if your employer started charging $100 a month for parking if you didn't use it? or $10 a day for special days(gotta get kids after school, dr aptpt). I'm not saying this would be easy or fun for everyone. I'm wondering if a government SHOULD impose a tax on employees driving to EBR for work.
I'm sue businesses would be lining up to charge their employees to drive to work.
It does sound like something EBR would do though. Provide a shitty service and penalize people for not using it. Very economically liberal thinking.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 12:39 pm to fightin tigers
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So you are asking employers to fund this?
I have NO IDEA. It's a spinoff based on the concept. How it would be funded or operate is totally up to us to brainstorm.
I suggested perks from employers who would then get tax savings from feds for example.
Or EBR government designates hubs(areas with highest concentration of employees) and puts premiums on parking in these hubs, making employers charge for parking.
If other states are going to start taxing drivers for mileage, don't write off this idea so quickly. Just wondering if and how that mandate could happen
Posted on 7/14/14 at 12:40 pm to fightin tigers
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It does sound like something EBR would do though. Provide a shitty service and penalize people for not using it. Very economically liberal thinking.
Exactly. I agree it's liberal in thinking. But. This kind of shite is happening now with taxes on drivers over certain miles. That day is coming.
I'm just wondering if something like that couldn't help fix interstate traffic before a load of dirt is turned on infrastructure.
Bottomline is motherfrickers moved out the parish because schools sucked, crime sucked, blah blah blah. All valid reasons. But they continue to commute to BR for work and bitch about traffic but want NO loop through their parish.
I'm throwing a big what if EBR said "frick you outsiders", pay up to park here or use the shuttle.
This post was edited on 7/14/14 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 7/14/14 at 12:42 pm to WeeWee
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BRT line from downtown BR to atleast the Cortana Mall area maybe all the way to LP.
Another BRT line from the MOL to airport running down perkins to acadian thruway, connect to plank road and end close to the airport.
Again, in some cities this works. It seems southern cities are so sprawling that this doesn't help much. There is so much area to cover, such as Towne Center, LSU, Sherwood, Seigen that there would be infinite routes to make it appealing.
For the last job in BR I would have gotten on a rail/bus that went from Hwy 42 in pville to the old bridge. Would have been jacked for that option.
However, if it went from the fairgrounds to the old bridge I likely wouldn't have ridden.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 12:42 pm to mikelbr
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just an idea to have fewer cars on the interstates.
By adding more busses...? Seems legit...
Posted on 7/14/14 at 12:45 pm to mikelbr
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I'm throwing a big what if EBR said "frick you outsiders", pay up to park here or use the shuttle.
It is a bold option. St George would have no problem spinning off when small business couldn't keep employees or had their operating cost too high.
BR aleady has to overcome enough negatives to look attractive to new businesses. fricking with employees that have other options would just be another negative.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 1:14 pm to mikelbr
this is JMO, but aside from a few select areas of town, i don't find BR traffic to be as ridiculously bad as this board makes it out to be
granted, i rarely cross the bridge or go downtown during the week, and i understand those areas are some of the worst, along with college and essen
but if someone had to drive from LP to AP or vice versa, even going through baton rouge, I don't think the traffic is all that bad
granted, i rarely cross the bridge or go downtown during the week, and i understand those areas are some of the worst, along with college and essen
but if someone had to drive from LP to AP or vice versa, even going through baton rouge, I don't think the traffic is all that bad
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