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re: Spinoff of "Fix Baton Rouge": Designated Park n Ride Hubs

Posted on 7/14/14 at 1:17 pm to
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47498 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 1:17 pm to
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BR aleady has to overcome enough negatives to look attractive to new businesses. fricking with employees that have other options would just be another negative.


See that's where I disagree. BR USED to not be a place businesses wanted to come. By only alienating employees who PREFER to live outside the parish, I don't see EBR running off too many IBMs, CBIs, etc.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

don't find BR traffic to be as ridiculously bad as this board makes it out to be


Agreed. My commute from near the airport to Pville was usually 45 minutes at 4:30/5:00p. No traffic it was 30 minutes. I don't find that to be that bad.
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61441 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 1:20 pm to
i'm spoiled now because i only go from denham to sherwood, but when I used to go from denham all the way to highland, i still didnt really encounter much traffic, coming or going
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

I don't see EBR running off too many IBMs, CBIs, etc.


True. Unfortunately there are only a handful of those employers in the city. Small businesses are who to be concerned about.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47498 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

quote:just an idea to have fewer cars on the interstates. By adding more busses...? Seems legit...


Oh dear baby jeezus.

say 100 AP residents park at Home Depot parking lot(already a designated park n ride) at HWY 30 @ I10 and take a bus to OLOL at 530, 630, and one at 7 am(in time for first bus to get back and reload).

100 cars > 2 buses.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70280 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 1:21 pm to
Could privately arranged, incentivized carpooling accomplish something similar?
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47498 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

True. Unfortunately there are only a handful of those employers in the city. Small businesses are who to be concerned about.


Most definitely. I didn't really think out how to get exemption from this new tax/parking fee. But I was thinking of the big time employers who aint' going anywhere, like take all state, city, and parish offices and start with them.
Then major plants, hospitals, etc.

on the surface it seems to punish big businesses, but that's where some fed/stat subsidy comes in to help.
This post was edited on 7/14/14 at 1:23 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 1:23 pm to
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say 100 AP residents park at Home Depot parking lot(already a designated park n ride) at HWY 30 @ I10 and take a bus to OLOL at 530, 630, and one at 7 am(in time for first bus to get back and reload).


Ah, now I see what you are getting at. More of a private major corporation shuttle. Just transport the employees at the major corporations and tax those it isn't convienent to.

It would probably get support for those companies and employees.
Posted by Paige
Vice President of the OT
Member since Oct 2010
84748 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 1:23 pm to
Why do you think the park and rides are failures?

I ride one to work every day. The incentive for me is my company pays for it so I save close to $20 a day if I were driving my own car. Plus I don't have to deal with traffic, just watch Netflix
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61441 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 1:25 pm to
quote:

save close to $20 a day


Just how bad are the MPGs on your car?

Even factoring in maintenance and wear and tear, that seems like quite a commute
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67083 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 1:25 pm to
What I think would work much better are shuttles for the plants in AP. The roads getting people to and from the plants in Ascension (on both sides of the river) are completely substandard. Having such a busing program could work, but I doubt it would.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47498 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

Ah, now I see what you are getting at. More of a private major corporation shuttle. Just transport the employees at the major corporations and tax those it isn't convienent to. It would probably get support for those companies and employees.


Yea I'm admittedly ignorant on these things but I agree it would be a balancing act to keep and attract big businesses with subsidies while pressuring them to push employees to either live locally or ride the shuttles.
Idk, I figure 25-30 of the biggest entities in ebr could remove 10-20k cars off the roads during peak hours in an ideal situation like this.

We gotta think of something. WE ARE BR.

Posted by Paige
Vice President of the OT
Member since Oct 2010
84748 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 1:28 pm to
I'm five minutes from my park and ride. And it drops off directly in front of my work complex. I've only had one day of getting rained on and a couple where I should've worn more cold winter gear

And they run every twenty minutes. I've rarely missed my morning bus. And it doesn't bother me if I have to sit outside after work for fifteen minutes
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47498 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

I ride one to work every day. The incentive for me is my company pays for it so I save close to $20 a day if I were driving my own car. Plus I don't have to deal with traffic, just watch Netflix


I carpooled for about 6 years b/c of distance to work(70 miles at one job and 45 miles at another). We never hit traffic but the gas and relaxation was worth it. When smart phones came out, it was really relaxing to read the news sites, facebook, take a nap, etc


eta: Paige knows what's up. I'd drive 5 miles to a park n ride to save 60 miles round trip daily. plus the traffic thing.
This post was edited on 7/14/14 at 1:31 pm
Posted by Paige
Vice President of the OT
Member since Oct 2010
84748 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 1:34 pm to
14 mpg, premium gas and I'm including tolls

Didn't factor in any maintenance
Posted by TigerFred
Feeding hamsters
Member since Aug 2003
27174 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:58 pm to
It is a failure because about .05% of people in Houston actually use it. If you don't work in the Galleria or Downtown you can't use it. The area of the freeways that are consumed by HOV/Diamond lanes is ridiculous. The Katy freeway for example has 40% of it that can only be used by a very small percentage of the population.
Posted by GeauxWrek
Somewhere b/w Houston and BR
Member since Sep 2010
4293 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 3:03 pm to
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Provide a shitty service and penalize people for not using it. Very economically liberal thinking
Sounds very English. So does this great plan get installed after they build the loop?
Posted by trillhog
Elite Membership
Member since Jul 2011
19407 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 3:04 pm to
So what do you so when you need to run errands or go to lunch?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 3:05 pm to
quote:

Sounds very English.



I think I remember Top Gear talking about this happening in London.
This post was edited on 7/14/14 at 3:06 pm
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