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Did I do something wrong? - Tax treatment of stocks sold at various times
Posted on 7/14/14 at 8:02 am
Posted on 7/14/14 at 8:02 am
Say I purchased 1000 shares of stock ACME at $10 on Dec 1st.
I sell two lots on Dec 26: 300 shares for 10.50 and 400 shares for 10.60. Tax season comes so I have to pay taxes on the short term earnings.
Fast forward a few months: the stock price on the shares I still own are down to $5. If I were to sell today, I would have a loss on the total transactions of the stock purchased on Dec 1st. Is there a way to show this between taxable years so that I won't have taxable income on what turned out to be a loss?
I sell two lots on Dec 26: 300 shares for 10.50 and 400 shares for 10.60. Tax season comes so I have to pay taxes on the short term earnings.
Fast forward a few months: the stock price on the shares I still own are down to $5. If I were to sell today, I would have a loss on the total transactions of the stock purchased on Dec 1st. Is there a way to show this between taxable years so that I won't have taxable income on what turned out to be a loss?
Posted on 7/14/14 at 8:14 am to C
If you realized the gains and losses in different tax years I don't think so
If they were in the same year, you could
If they were in the same year, you could
Posted on 7/14/14 at 8:23 am to C
The 2 lots sold in December would be short term gains for Year 1 tax returns. The lot sold today would be short term losses for Year 2 tax return. There would be no taxable income on the losses in Year 2.
Not really sure I understand what you're asking though.
Not really sure I understand what you're asking though.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 8:33 am to The Spleen
I am pretty sure you take a 3k capital loss in year 2 and can carry back the rest to year 1.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 10:14 am to C
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Did I do something wrong?
You should have sold 1000 shares on 12/26 instead of only 700.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 10:18 am to reb13
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I am pretty sure you take a 3k capital loss in year 2 and can carry back the rest to year 1
I haven't worked personal income taxes in several years, but I don't there is a carryback for stock losses, just a carry forward.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 10:19 am to C
You purchased 1,000 shares of stock @ 10, total basis $10,000.
You sold 300 shares @ $10.50, total proceeds $3,150, you used $3,000 of your basis, so you had a short term gain of $150 and you have $7,000 of basis remaining.
Same day, you sold 400 shares @ $10.60, total proceeds $4,240, you used $4,000 of your basis, so you had a short term gain of $240, and you have $3,000 of basis remaining.
Now, on July 14, you sold 300 shares @5, total proceeds $1,500, you used $3,000 of your basis, so you have a short term loss of $1,500, and no basis remaining.
Accross time, you have short term losses that exceed your short term gains, in relation to the total 1,000 shares originally bought. But you have to compute, and report, gain or loss as of the day you sold the stock.
You sold 300 shares @ $10.50, total proceeds $3,150, you used $3,000 of your basis, so you had a short term gain of $150 and you have $7,000 of basis remaining.
Same day, you sold 400 shares @ $10.60, total proceeds $4,240, you used $4,000 of your basis, so you had a short term gain of $240, and you have $3,000 of basis remaining.
Now, on July 14, you sold 300 shares @5, total proceeds $1,500, you used $3,000 of your basis, so you have a short term loss of $1,500, and no basis remaining.
Accross time, you have short term losses that exceed your short term gains, in relation to the total 1,000 shares originally bought. But you have to compute, and report, gain or loss as of the day you sold the stock.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 10:27 am to LSUFanHouston
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Accross time, you have short term losses that exceed your short term gains, in relation to the total 1,000 shares originally bought. But you have to compute, and report, gain or loss as of the day you sold the stock.
Yes. Just needing to understand carry forward or back losses/gains.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 10:40 am to C
When it comes to selling good ole fashioned publically traded securities,
1) Report gains and losses as they cocur.
2) If capital losses for year exceed capital gains, you can offset $3,000 of the excesslosses ($1,500 if married filing seperate) against your other income.
3) If you have more than $3,000 ($1,500 if married filing seperate) of excess losses in a year, the amounts above this threshhold carry forward to the next year and are added to the gains/losses for the next year.
1) Report gains and losses as they cocur.
2) If capital losses for year exceed capital gains, you can offset $3,000 of the excesslosses ($1,500 if married filing seperate) against your other income.
3) If you have more than $3,000 ($1,500 if married filing seperate) of excess losses in a year, the amounts above this threshhold carry forward to the next year and are added to the gains/losses for the next year.
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