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To liberals... Just a thought
Posted on 7/5/14 at 1:29 am
Posted on 7/5/14 at 1:29 am
Is it possible for you to concentrate on solving economic problems instead of creating another? Being serious.
Why do you NEED a cause? Why do you look at a fish(or insert your latest animal) that might die out and insist on spending BILLIONS(tax payer money) to save it? Does that not go against all of the natural selection? How many animals/creatures are extinct that had nothing to do with modern man? Yet we live on.
Your causes are some what cart before horse. Let's take condoms for example. You people are going all out stroke over condoms. People can't afford a condom? SO we have to throw that into healthcare?
It's not just animals,condoms, and healthcare. It's 99% of your causes.
Here is a thought... Stop creating new causes that spend more money because we are broke. Stop getting all worked up over condoms. Stop getting all worked up over healthcare for people who don't have it. Get worked up over creating jobs and teaching people to be responsible. Stop getting the cart before the horse.
Try fixing the economy so people can get back to work.
Why do you NEED a cause? Why do you look at a fish(or insert your latest animal) that might die out and insist on spending BILLIONS(tax payer money) to save it? Does that not go against all of the natural selection? How many animals/creatures are extinct that had nothing to do with modern man? Yet we live on.
Your causes are some what cart before horse. Let's take condoms for example. You people are going all out stroke over condoms. People can't afford a condom? SO we have to throw that into healthcare?
It's not just animals,condoms, and healthcare. It's 99% of your causes.
Here is a thought... Stop creating new causes that spend more money because we are broke. Stop getting all worked up over condoms. Stop getting all worked up over healthcare for people who don't have it. Get worked up over creating jobs and teaching people to be responsible. Stop getting the cart before the horse.
Try fixing the economy so people can get back to work.
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 1:44 am to darkhorse
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Get worked up over creating jobs
Disagree with this in that politicians should not be making great efforts specifically to "create" jobs. Creating an atmosphere that is conducive to economic prosperity (and job growth) is a plus, though.
Irks me when government steps in, picks private entity as a winner, and announces that they "created" jobs by helping that private entity out. That sort of thing is artificial, imo.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 2:12 am to Asgard Device
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Disagree with this in that politicians should not be making great efforts specifically to "create" jobs. Creating an atmosphere that is conducive to economic prosperity (and job growth) is a plus, though.
Irks me when government steps in, picks private entity as a winner, and announces that they "created" jobs by helping that private entity out. That sort of thing is artificial, imo.
This is a valid line of thought. Jobs created by the private sector with no gov't interference are the only legitimate and nautral employment there is.
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Creating an atmosphere that is conducive to economic prosperity (and job growth) is a plus, though.
There's only one way to do this and that is politicians exercising self control and stopping the practice of crony capitalism and letting the market be the market.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 7:07 am to Asgard Device
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Creating an atmosphere that is conducive to economic prosperity
This x1000
Posted on 7/5/14 at 7:13 am to darkhorse
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Here is a thought... Stop creating new causes that spend more money because we are broke. Stop getting all worked up over condoms. Stop getting all worked up over healthcare for people who don't have it. Get worked up over creating jobs and teaching people to be responsible. Stop getting the cart before the horse.
They do it to win voters. Much of their voting base doesn't care about the economy because in their mind it doesn't directly effect them while social issues do.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 7:38 am to Sentrius
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There's only one way to do this and that is politicians exercising self control and stopping the practice of crony capitalism and letting the market be the market.
shite, we are doomed.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 7:46 am to Sevendust912
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They do it to win voters.
bingo
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Much of their voting base doesn't care about the economy because in their mind it doesn't directly effect them while social issues do.
Why do you think this is the case?
Posted on 7/5/14 at 7:47 am to darkhorse
The liberals have had a change of heart. They've logged off of TD, and are off to do exactly what you've proposed.
Celebrate. You did it. HUZZAH!
Celebrate. You did it. HUZZAH!
Posted on 7/5/14 at 7:49 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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Why do you think this is the case?
I shouldn't say "don't care" but I think a large percentage of liberals place social issues ahead of the economy and a balanced budget on their scale of importance.
This post was edited on 7/5/14 at 7:50 am
Posted on 7/5/14 at 8:03 am to Sevendust912
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I think a large percentage of liberals place social issues ahead of the economy and a balanced budget on their scale of importance.
Yep. Dems are more concerned about winning a few battles than they are about winning the war.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 8:34 am to darkhorse
Economy is doing well.
Right now, there are 2 major problems IMO.
Middle class wage stagnation. Corporations are taking in record profits and the higher ups are giving themselves raises and banking the rest. The result is corporations with record levels of cash and a an income equality gap that is pretty spectacular right now and increasing exponentially.
Now, that is all fine and dandy if you are content with middle class wages continuing to stay stagnant while inflation starts to increase. Personally I don't really care as it doesn't affect me, but I do think it is not good for most people in this country.
Second is the debt and deficit which everyone is aware of.
Politically speaking I can't see the GOP helping in either area. In fact they seem to be the party which is more supportive of the causes of both of the problems right now.
Right now, there are 2 major problems IMO.
Middle class wage stagnation. Corporations are taking in record profits and the higher ups are giving themselves raises and banking the rest. The result is corporations with record levels of cash and a an income equality gap that is pretty spectacular right now and increasing exponentially.
Now, that is all fine and dandy if you are content with middle class wages continuing to stay stagnant while inflation starts to increase. Personally I don't really care as it doesn't affect me, but I do think it is not good for most people in this country.
Second is the debt and deficit which everyone is aware of.
Politically speaking I can't see the GOP helping in either area. In fact they seem to be the party which is more supportive of the causes of both of the problems right now.
This post was edited on 7/5/14 at 8:38 am
Posted on 7/5/14 at 8:40 am to Sevendust912
Btw, don't know if I'm considered a liberal around here, but I could not care less about social issues except I hate how many laws we have and our outrageous incarceration rate.
Otherwise don't care about any social issues. That includes abortion, gun control, and whatever other social issues there are out there.
Otherwise don't care about any social issues. That includes abortion, gun control, and whatever other social issues there are out there.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 9:01 am to darkhorse
I don't give liberals near the credit that you do. Your OP suggests that you find liberals to be misguided. I don't think liberals are misguided at all.
I believe they know EXACTLY what they are doing.
I believe that liberals have no desire whatsoever to actually solve problems. I believe liberals look at problems and attempt to devise a manner in which to exploit the existence of the problem in order to advance their ideology.
It is everywhere you look. Name an issue in which a problem exists and you will see that liberals don't propose pragmatic, sensible solutions to that problem. They either work to establish a false premise regarding the cause of the problem or they propose false solutions to the actual problem. In both instances, their "cures" only seek to bolster their ideology, increase their political power, strengthen their cultural grip, demonize their opposition and actually propagate the problem so they can continue to benefit from it.
If liberals were misguided, they could be dealt with. Because they are not misguided, but nefarious, they have to be defeated.
I believe they know EXACTLY what they are doing.
I believe that liberals have no desire whatsoever to actually solve problems. I believe liberals look at problems and attempt to devise a manner in which to exploit the existence of the problem in order to advance their ideology.
It is everywhere you look. Name an issue in which a problem exists and you will see that liberals don't propose pragmatic, sensible solutions to that problem. They either work to establish a false premise regarding the cause of the problem or they propose false solutions to the actual problem. In both instances, their "cures" only seek to bolster their ideology, increase their political power, strengthen their cultural grip, demonize their opposition and actually propagate the problem so they can continue to benefit from it.
If liberals were misguided, they could be dealt with. Because they are not misguided, but nefarious, they have to be defeated.
This post was edited on 7/5/14 at 9:11 am
Posted on 7/5/14 at 9:07 am to darkhorse
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Is it possible for you to concentrate on solving economic problems instead of creating another?
Same can be said of Conservatives.
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Being serious.
Can't be..
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Stop getting all worked up over condoms.
Only reason Conservatives are not mandating condom use by "inner city youth" is the right to life people/voters they pander to. Otherwise the Po-Po would "stop and frisk" for a condom check. If not packing you go to jail.
BTW, I give two shits about condoms. Cost AIN'T the reason for condoms lack of use. Being a CONDOM is the reason for its lack of use. quote:
Stop getting all worked up over healthcare for people who don't have it.
Why? We should be. Are you suggesting Death Panels comrade?
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teaching people to be responsible.
Sounds very liberal and idealistic of you???
Posted on 7/5/14 at 9:14 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Now, that is all fine and dandy if you are content with middle class wages continuing to stay stagnant while inflation starts to increase. Personally I don't really care as it doesn't affect me, but I do think it is not good for most people in this country.
Look no further than what's being done to the currency. Central banks fund irresponsible government and financial institutions. It's shielded them from risk and put the bill on us. If you're concerned about the growing wealth gap, you must look at monetary policy.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 9:17 am to Scoop
Considering that the economy is doing well, and just days ago, one of the most favorable economic reports ever came out, I don't see how this OP is even relevant to anything.
Unless you are saying Republicans are the reason why the economy is doing well.
Also, it seems like you have given up on the GOP, as though you, as they, are resigned to do nothing but continue the most fantastic effort at cock-blocking a President ever.
Unless you are saying Republicans are the reason why the economy is doing well.
Also, it seems like you have given up on the GOP, as though you, as they, are resigned to do nothing but continue the most fantastic effort at cock-blocking a President ever.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 9:48 am to EthanL
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Considering that the economy is doing well, and just days ago, one of the most favorable economic reports ever came out, I don't see how this OP is even relevant to anything.
You mean the report last week that the US GDP shrank in the first quarter by nearly 3%? Yeah, that was awesome.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 9:57 am to darkhorse
This is fricking comical.
Abortion was fought for a few scores ago. Who still discusses this?
Prayer in schools, who fights for this?
The liberal wants free condoms and BC everywhere because he realizes that the dregs of society keep fricking and ejaculating inside women, creating babies and disease that we then must care for. We understand you will fight those benefits so we are trying to stop this unsustainable reproduction train.
I don't give a frick about social issues, but these dregs need a cork in it and they aren't going to do it alone.
Abortion was fought for a few scores ago. Who still discusses this?
Prayer in schools, who fights for this?
The liberal wants free condoms and BC everywhere because he realizes that the dregs of society keep fricking and ejaculating inside women, creating babies and disease that we then must care for. We understand you will fight those benefits so we are trying to stop this unsustainable reproduction train.
I don't give a frick about social issues, but these dregs need a cork in it and they aren't going to do it alone.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 9:58 am to Scoop
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Scoop
Well said.
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