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A reverend is alleging he got stiffed $16,000 after buying votes...

Posted on 7/1/14 at 2:10 am
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 2:10 am
at $15 a vote for Thad Cochran. The guy who allegedly stiffed him is an aide to Roger Wicker. This was just posted and linked from a pretty reputable Mississippi political blog (cottonmouth blog) I don't know how legit this is but there's a 20 minute audio along with pics of text messages.

If they really did buy these votes why wouldn't they pay off the vote buyer??


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Reverend Stevie Fielder, associate pastor at historic First Union Missionary Baptist Church and former official at Meridian's redevelopment agency, says he delivered "hundreds or even thousands," of blacks to the polls after being offered money and being assured by a Cochran campaign operative that Chris McDaniel was a racist. "They [the Cochran campaign] told me to offer blacks fifteen dollars each and to vote for Thad."

It is illegal under several provisions of Mississippi law and federal law for campaign officials to bribe voters with cash and punishable up to five years in jail. (MS Code 97-13-1; MS Code 97-13-3 (2013) (Federal Code 18 U.S.C. 597, U.S.C. 1973i(c)) Voter fraud schemes are not unusual for Mississippi. In 1999 Mississippi's attorney general reported massive voter fraud allegations throughout the Magnolia state. In 2011, a Mississippi NAACP leader was sent to prison for voter fraud, according to the Daily Caller.

It would seem that laws were broken here, too. At the direction of the Cochran campaign, Reverend Fielder went "door to door, different places, mostly impoverished neighborhoods, to the housing authorities and stuff like that," telling fellow blacks that McDaniel was a racist and promising them $15 per vote. "They sold me on the fact that he was a racist and that the right thing to do was to keep him out of office," Fielder says.

Text messages released to Got News and a recorded interview with Reverend Fielder confirmed that Saleem Baird, a staffer with the Cochran campaign and current legislative aide to U.S. Senator Roger Wicker, and Cochran campaign manager, Kirk Sims, were involved in a $15-per-vote cash bribery scheme to target members of the black community.

"They said they needed black votes," said the Reverend Fielder on the phone. He says Baird told him to "give the fifteen dollars in each envelope to people as they go in and vote. You know, not right outside of the polling place but he would actually recruit people with the $15 dollars and they would go in and vote." Fielder said he received thousands of dollars in envelopes from Baird and distributed them accordingly. Fielder also says he went to the campaign office on another occasion to pick up $300 in cash and was among a room full of people who were doing the same thing he was.

Fielder said that Saleem Baird was doing the same thing with people all over the state. Fielder believes that the racism charge against McDaniel and the promise of $15 a vote motivated 'thousands' of black Democrats like him to vote for Cochran in the runoff. When asked if Fielder would have been more suspicious of Baird's promises had he been white, Fielder replied, "Yes, definitely."

For his efforts, Fielder says the Cochran campaign and Baird promised him $16,000 for paying black voters $15 a vote, but Baird wound up stiffing him. Baird even asked him to delete all texts between the two of them. In addition to Baird, Fielder says he spoke with Kirk Sims, the Cochran campaign manager, and a woman named "Amanda" with the campaign, most likely Amanda Shook, director of operations to re-elect Thad Cochran. All refused to pay him the agreed upon amount of $16,000.

Baird realized he had been lied to when he "took a good look at the campaign ads" and realized "McDaniel was not a racist...me and other people were misguided and misled."

Fielder confronted Saleem the weekend before the election and asked about whether or not McDaniel was actually a racist and Baird confirmed it. Baird "personally confirmed that McDaniel was a racist." Baird 'manipulated me to manipulate many other people," says Fielder. Baird did not disclose that he worked as a paid legislative staffer for Senator Roger Wicker. Fielder also says he spoke with campaign manager Kirk Sims about getting paid and about the ethical complaints he had.

Fielder is a Democrat but said he has voted for Republicans in the past. And though Fielder is being paid for his story by Got News, he says he'd come forward anyway. "I thought what I did was wrong." Fielder said he was motivated mostly by concerns that McDaniel was a racist, not money.

As to what should happen next, 'definitely the election should not be allowed to stand," says Fielder, who says he'll support McDaniel in event of a special election. 'He's been done wrong. He's not what they said that he is.'

Got News tried calling both Baird and Sims with Fielder on the line. We got through to Sims but Sims insisted that there was a bad connection when Fielder asked about the racist smear campaign against Chris McDaniel and hung up. Were Baird found to have violated any laws in this matter, this would not be his first time he had a brush with the wrong side of the law. In 2011, Baird, who is a legislative staffer with U.S. Senator Roger Wicker, was allowed to keep his job with the senator after being arrested on charges of running an illegal strip joint in Jackson.

Fully aware that we have helped reveal the Cochran campaign may be involved in a criminal conspiracy, Got News will turn over any and all evidence to law enforcement.




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This post was edited on 7/1/14 at 2:12 am
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 2:24 am to
Meh, if anything the last few years of TD leftposting has taught us it is that there are no instances of vote fraud.
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
27539 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 2:30 am to
So the Rev just admitted to several felonies?
Posted by North Texas Tiger
Close to Ft Worth TX
Member since Mar 2004
4797 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 2:38 am to
Don't worry. Rove and his PAC will cover the tab. He just has to be patient because the dumb arse voters haven't submitted their checks yet.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57841 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 3:04 am to
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So the Rev just admitted to several felonies?



Yes apparently for the Reverend, stealing votes, bribing people and breaking laws are all secondary to suspected racism? And of course if he had been paid his bribe, he wouldn't be saying one word right now.
Word is they were telling black folks that McDaniel would go to Washinton and take away blacks right to vote! You have to be as dumb as a bag of rocks to think that one politician could do such a thing even if he wanted to.
This post was edited on 7/1/14 at 3:13 am
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 3:15 am to
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It would seem that laws were broken here, too.




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Fielder said he was motivated mostly by concerns that McDaniel was a racist, not money.




This story has to be a lie. I have been told time and time again there is no voter fraud in the United States. And it would definitely not involve Democratic voters.

ETA: Everyone can rest easy. Eric Holder and the DOJ will be down there immediately to investigate.
This post was edited on 7/1/14 at 3:18 am
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 3:19 am to
quote:

So the Rev just admitted to several felonies?


Yup. He will obviously be prosecuted by DOJ.

Posted by MadDoggyStyle
Member since Feb 2012
3857 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 5:09 am to
It should be easy to confirm the source of these text messages but paying the "Reverend" for his story will be the fly in the ointment.
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
21450 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 6:05 am to
I believe this is true and it happens more often then people think. I find it sad that a person would sell his vote for a measly $15.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111498 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 6:07 am to
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Fielder is a Democrat but said he has voted for Republicans in the past.


Obviously fake story.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 6:28 am to
quote:

Obviously fake story.


I think this one has some legs. Will see how it plays out. I would love to see establishment Republicans and Democrats take one in the shorts.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111498 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 6:43 am to
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establishment Republicans and Democrats take one in the shorts.

Agreed. I had my tongue firmly in my cheek.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79616 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 6:44 am to
quote:

I believe this is true and it happens more often then people think. I find it sad that a person would sell his vote for a measly $15.


The price has gone up. Cleo used to pack them on busses and buy them off with McD's cheeseburgers.

$15? That a sweet deal for something you likely weren't going to use anyway, i.e., your vote.
This post was edited on 7/1/14 at 6:45 am
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50241 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 7:02 am to
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The price has gone up. Cleo used to pack them on busses and buy them off with McD's cheeseburgers.


I was thinking the same damn thing. These Mississippi Republicans are obviously new to this game. You can buy Democrat votes for much cheaper than that. When I was younger, it was a bus ride and snack.

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$15? That a sweet deal for something you likely weren't going to use anyway, i.e., your vote.


I guess when you factor in inflation...LOL
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 7:05 am to
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Agreed. I had my tongue firmly in my cheek.


Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 7:27 am to
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So the Rev just admitted to several felonies?


"Where does Obomba get his money?"

"From his stash!"


Are you implying nobodies that stupid?



Posted by Radiojones
The Twilight Zone
Member since Feb 2007
10728 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 7:35 am to
quote:

I find it sad that a person would sell his vote for a measly $15.


It shows an absolute ignorance as to what those who got us the right to vote went through.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118683 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 7:38 am to
I believe the law is pretty straight forward in Mississippi. If your campaign is involved in vote buying you are removed from office. But the question is, will a Mississippi judge have the balls to remove Cochran? Probably not.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89483 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 7:39 am to
People with money make bad decisions, too.

I remember a man who financed his wife's state supreme court campaign - spent ~$1 million of his own money, but wouldn't pay off the last guy he needed to get over 50%. Would have cost $10k to $20k if I recall correctly.

I guess she'll retire a district judge, now. It's not like they don't own/control an entire parish...
This post was edited on 7/1/14 at 7:47 am
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
10808 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 7:45 am to
quote:

I find it sad that a person would sell his vote for a measly $15.

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