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Obama Currency Law - effective July 1

Posted on 6/28/14 at 11:12 am
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54207 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 11:12 am
Any PT ballers going to suffer from this? After reading a couple of websites about it I'm as confused as a rabbit in the road during rush hour.
One article says it's bad, the other says the the first article has it all wrong. Who'd a thunk it. About the only thing I know, maybe, is that it involves overseas accounts now being reported to the IRS.

Anyone else have a laymen's definition of what is going to happen in two days? Thanks.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
28804 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 11:13 am to
A link would be nice.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54207 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 11:26 am to
Here you go.

LINK
Several links
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 11:30 am to
Your "Several Links" link is broken. The first link tells us nothing except it's from a Paul doom and gloom website.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 11:31 am to
Just tell me how much gold I need to buy.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123887 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 11:34 am to
quote:

Anyone else have a laymen's definition of what is going to happen in two days? Thanks.
LINK
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 11:37 am to
quote:

Anyone else have a laymen's definition of what is going to happen in two days?
Any U.S. taxpayer who holds assets in a foreign country worth more than $50,000 must report the holdings on a new form to the IRS when the taxpayer files his tax return.

Foreign banks must also report U.S. taxpayers' accounts in their bank to the IRS annually.

The vast majority of Americans will experience zero impact on their lives.

The whole "this will make the U.S. dollar collapse" meme is just more bullshite from the Paul camp so their advertisers can sell more gold and silver and they can continue to feed the insatiable paranoia of their followers.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 11:38 am to
This is not just an Obama law - it is approved by Congress. If you don't like it, tell your Congressman.

And unless you have a bank account overseas that you're using to hide from the IRS, it doesn't affect you anyway.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123887 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 11:39 am to
quote:

unless you have a bank account overseas that you're using to hide from the IRS, it doesn't affect you anyway.
Unfortunately, that is not true.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123887 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 11:40 am to
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more bullshite from the Paul camp so their advertisers can sell more gold
Cougar Rands?




This post was edited on 6/28/14 at 11:45 am
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
20685 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 11:43 am to
What is the supposed benefit or advantage of this law?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123887 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 11:47 am to
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What is the supposed benefit or advantage of this law?
Exposure of illegit overseas tax shelters
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 11:49 am to
The law was passed on 2010 in an attempt to prevent future cases of tax fraud like what happened at UBS bank in Switzerland where very wealthy U.S. taxpayers were hiding money and avoiding taxes by putting millions of dollars in Swiss bank accounts.
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 11:53 am to
Sounds like a good, common sense law.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
32883 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 12:01 pm to
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Unfortunately, that is not true.


Please explain.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123887 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 12:05 pm to
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Please explain.
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Then, in 2010, Congress passed and Obama signed a new tax law buried deep inside an unrelated “jobs” bill. That changed everything. Of course, even before that, it was already hard enough to be American overseas — filing endless amounts of paperwork with the IRS, paying taxes on worldwide income, disclosing foreign bank accounts and assets, and risking life-destroying penalties even for innocent mistakes. When the 2010 scheme became law, though, it was simply too much to bear.

Suddenly, Ruth, like millions of other everyday Americans overseas — missionaries, spouses, teachers, small-business owners, so-called accidental Americans who’ve never even stepped foot on U.S. soil, and countless others — were stuck in a Catch-22. Foreign banks were shutting down Americans’ accounts. Many businesses no longer wanted anything to do with “U.S. persons,” preferring to steer clear of the infamous IRS. Americans abroad were suddenly pariahs.

Ruth’s husband, who makes around $50,000 a year as a technician, drew the line at giving the Obama administration unfettered access to all of the family’s private financial information — and potentially even their meager savings if, for instance, the IRS claimed to uncover some minor mistake or oversight in the mountains of complex paperwork Americans abroad are forced to file every year. Moving to the United States was not an option either.

She cried a lot about it. “I’ll never be truly over the fact that I had to lose my citizenship but, it has happened,” Ruth said, adding that she is “horribly hurt” by all of it. “I still feel as if it must be some bad dream since it cannot be possible that the U.S., the country I loved with all my heart, has caused me to have to choose between my family here in Canada or my country of birth. And yet, it is real.”

To the political class in Washington, Ruth doesn’t exist. Like the millions of other Americans suffering hardship, she’s just a “myth” to the politicians and administration bureaucrats searching, like a flailing drug-addicted giant on the verge of collapse, for just a few extra dollars to stay afloat just a little while longer. Washington is determined to collect that extra billion or so per year in taxes.

So, in 2010, without any hearings or analysis, the Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act (FATCA) — hidden in the misnamed “HIRE Act” and passed largely by Democrats — was officially born. In essence, it is an attempt to turn every foreign government and financial institution on the planet into extensions of the U.S. tax regime, and is supposed to work by imposing huge penalties — a 30-percent “withholding tax” on all U.S. transactions, including sales of securities — on firms that do not hand over all information they have on “U.S. persons” to the IRS.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 12:07 pm to
Where's the explanation in that quote?
Posted by Swampeast
On the Mississippi
Member since Feb 2014
141 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 12:13 pm to
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Just tell me how much gold I need to buy.

As much as you can afford.

When investing in precious metals put 90% of you money in gold and 10% in silver. DO NOT buy PMs on paper. When you pay for it make the seller hand it to you.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
32883 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 12:14 pm to
I understand it. It's not just affecting wealthy Americans hiding money oversees. It's also impacting law abiding Americans living oversees.
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18645 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 12:19 pm to
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