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Rookie Question: Why do we get in over Portugal?

Posted on 6/27/14 at 2:36 am
Posted by PenguinNinja
Antarctica (and Japan)
Member since Sep 2011
2081 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 2:36 am
We both beat Ghana 2-1. (3 pts each)

We both lost to Germany (0 pts)

We tied head to head (1 pt each)

So, both teams have 4 pts, with losses & wins against the same opponent and a draw head to head.

What's the tiebreaker? Did Germany demolish Portugal (don't recall the score)?

Sorry in advance for the newb question.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58061 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 2:37 am to
quote:

What's the tiebreaker? Did Germany demolish Portugal (don't recall the score)?


Germany beat dat arse 4-0
Posted by lsugradman
Member since Sep 2003
8545 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 2:51 am to
Came down to the 4th tiebreaker. Which is, as everyone knows, is which country is more badass. And I mean really we win that every time.
Posted by CheerWhine
A little bit of Mardi Gras
Member since Apr 2014
72912 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 3:31 am to
The first tiebreaker after points is goal difference, which is just taking the total number of goals you scored across all group matches and subtracting the total number of goals scored against you.

We scored 4 goals total and gave up 4, so we have a goal difference of 0.
Portugal also scored 4 goals, but gave up 7, so they have a goal difference of -3.

So we have the better goal difference and advance, thanks largely to Germany beating Portugal 4-0.
Posted by roguetiger15
Member since Jan 2013
16158 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 7:02 am to
quote:

So we have the better goal difference and advance, thanks ENTIRELY to Germany beating Portugal 4-0.


Fify
Posted by TheRookbird
Member since Aug 2013
1322 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 7:10 am to
Thank you Pepe.
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18151 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 7:10 am to
If points are tied (4 and 4) then go to total score (think of the pool play as ONE big game) minus goals allowed.


As has been said, the USA won 2-1, 2-2, lost 0-1, so that is 4 goals scored and 4 given up, so a total of ZERO.

Portugal lost 0-4, tied 2-2, won 2-1, so that is 4 goals scored, BUT they gave up 7, so a total of NEGATIVE 3.

This post was edited on 6/27/14 at 7:11 am
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 8:05 am to
Think of it this way, because this is a pretty good illustration of why group play decided in this fashion makes a lot of sense.

We both played each other and the same 2 opponents.

We both beat Ghana 2-1.
We tied each other.
They lost worse to Germany than we did.

Us going through over Portugal is the only thing that makes sense.

Posted by TigersBlood45
Member since Dec 2013
249 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 9:37 am to
quote:

Thank you Pepe.


Exactly!
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