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Death by carseat heat -
Posted on 6/25/14 at 7:01 am
Posted on 6/25/14 at 7:01 am
Posted on 6/25/14 at 7:32 am to Eurocat
quote:Yes. And your title is a bit off... it isn't the heat of the "carseat", it is the virtual oven that the car becomes.
Fatal Distraction: Forgetting a Child in the Backseat of a Car Is a Horrifying Mistake. Is It a Crime?
However I don't believe it is necessary to send a parent to jail when they are obviously repentant and there is evidence that it was unintentional. However, if there is a shred of evidence that they ever willfully left their child in the car for a shopping trip or at work then it is manslaughter.
Posted on 6/25/14 at 7:45 am to Eurocat
As appalling as it is, in today's world, the everyday decisions a person has to consciously and subconsciously make must be 20X what our grandparents had to make. There is so much to deal with, so much distraction. It's extremely sad for those people this has happened to, but it can be blamed, to some degree, on the demands of work, technology and just plain overload in our lives.
Posted on 6/25/14 at 8:02 am to HubbaBubba
I agree.
I'm waiting on a trend to develop where technological advances make life not just easier physically, but also mentally. Maybe the paradox is that we need some tasks to be more physically demanding and require more time to complete which then causes us to slow down mentally.
I'm waiting on a trend to develop where technological advances make life not just easier physically, but also mentally. Maybe the paradox is that we need some tasks to be more physically demanding and require more time to complete which then causes us to slow down mentally.
Posted on 6/25/14 at 8:07 am to HubbaBubba
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technology and just plain overload in our lives.
These are all choices we make on our own. A child did not make the choice to come into this world. It was once again the parents choice. Just because this shite happens on a regular basis should never be an excuse for the shitty parent.
Posted on 6/25/14 at 8:12 am to NbamaTiger90
A fair statement, but there is a difference between recognizing personal responsibilty (and failure) and recognizing societal trends which will lend themselves to more people being overstressed.
Parents being distracted has always and will always be a societal problem. This doesn't excuse the individual failures caused by the distractions, but we can acknowledge that more distractions will lead to more failures.
Parents being distracted has always and will always be a societal problem. This doesn't excuse the individual failures caused by the distractions, but we can acknowledge that more distractions will lead to more failures.
Posted on 6/25/14 at 8:14 am to Jimbeaux
It is not a crime. It was a horrible mistake that the tore the man to pieces. He will live with the horror the rest of his life. He might kill himself.
Why do we have to crminalize everything? Our society has become ridiculous.
Sometimes, things are just accidents. I feel horrible for the toddler and also the father. I cannot imagine what he must be going through. His life is over.
Why do we have to crminalize everything? Our society has become ridiculous.
Sometimes, things are just accidents. I feel horrible for the toddler and also the father. I cannot imagine what he must be going through. His life is over.
Posted on 6/25/14 at 8:16 am to Eurocat
Blind link OPs are so damn lazy. At least post a headline and a few paragraphs.
This post was edited on 6/25/14 at 8:17 am
Posted on 6/25/14 at 8:17 am to Eurocat
Why do you post only links? Quote a portion of it for those of us who don't want to click on blind links.
Also, isn't posting blind links against the rules on this site?
As for the topic at hand, if the situation wasn't intentional, I don't see how prison would make life any safer for the rest of us. An unintentional action does not make the individual a threat to society.
On top of that, he is likely already going through hell.
Also, isn't posting blind links against the rules on this site?
As for the topic at hand, if the situation wasn't intentional, I don't see how prison would make life any safer for the rest of us. An unintentional action does not make the individual a threat to society.
On top of that, he is likely already going through hell.
This post was edited on 6/25/14 at 8:18 am
Posted on 6/25/14 at 8:20 am to Eurocat
This is terrible. Can you imagine the pain and agony that child went through while literally being cooked? Who knows what was going through it's mind. Probably just wanted his mother to save him and make it all better.
Posted on 6/25/14 at 8:21 am to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:And there goes my ability to study this morning. Makes me want to puke.
This is terrible. Can you imagine the pain and agony that child went through while literally being cooked? Who knows what was going through it's mind. Probably just wanted his mother to save him and make it all better.
Posted on 6/25/14 at 8:27 am to AlaTiger
I understand the view of him being in a living hell with what he did. I am not sure that jail is the right place for him either.
I just know if my child did something like this to my grandchild they better pray they were in jail for a very long time. Or at least long enough that my pain and anger could be reasoned with.
I just know if my child did something like this to my grandchild they better pray they were in jail for a very long time. Or at least long enough that my pain and anger could be reasoned with.
Posted on 6/25/14 at 8:28 am to NbamaTiger90
quote:I don't think, in most of these cases, that being a shitty parent was the prevailing factor. Being distracted was. How many times have any of us forgotten something just from being distracted by something else? Sometimes bad shite just happens. It happens when you drive past your turn or exit and realize it a half mile later. Or it could be you take a call and get involved and forget to attend an important meeting. Or forget to wear a belt. Sometimes it's just stupid shite, and sometimes it's life altering shite. Everyone experiences it in one form or another. The difference is the degree of failure that results.
These are all choices we make on our own. A child did not make the choice to come into this world. It was once again the parents choice. Just because this shite happens on a regular basis should never be an excuse for the shitty parent.
Posted on 6/25/14 at 8:30 am to NbamaTiger90
It's a tragedy. Tragedies happen. Jail's purpose should be to keep dangerous people away from the population and to punish those how commit malicious acts. Putting this guy in prison does no good to anyone.
Posted on 6/25/14 at 8:30 am to Eurocat
As a parent, I can see how easily something like that can happen. Still think it's a crime, though I think living the rest of your life knowing your absentmindedness killed you child is punishment enough.
I miss the days when I was a kid and mom would leave us in the car with the windows down while she grocery shopped. Wouldn't even leave the radio on for us, and she got us out of the car we got the belt when we got home.
I miss the days when I was a kid and mom would leave us in the car with the windows down while she grocery shopped. Wouldn't even leave the radio on for us, and she got us out of the car we got the belt when we got home.
Posted on 6/25/14 at 8:31 am to HubbaBubba
This happened to a physician in Shreveport a few years back, I think. Terrible ordeal. If I remember right, it was just a slip in concentration as he was heading to work.
Posted on 6/25/14 at 8:36 am to HubbaBubba
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I don't think, in most of these cases, that being a shitty parent was the prevailing factor
I am sure the intent was to not be a shitty parent. But letting a phone call or something on the radio distract you to a point that you killed your child equates to shitty parenting.
Posted on 6/25/14 at 8:36 am to Scruffy
Another reason why women should be stay at home moms.
Posted on 6/25/14 at 9:02 am to HubbaBubba
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As appalling as it is, in today's world, the everyday decisions a person has to consciously and subconsciously make must be 20X what our grandparents had to make. There is so much to deal with, so much distraction.
BS! How old are you?
Your granparents probably lived in the period where thousands of young men and women left the deep south, traveled to Ohio and Michigan to work in steel mills and auto factories. That was not stressful?
I'm seventy two. I live under a lot less stress than my parents and grandparents.
I have two sons, both successful, neither has the stress that parents had to endure to put food on the table for me and my seven brothers and sisters.
The only safety net in those times except friends and relatives.
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