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re: Lnglf.....who has been stocking up?

Posted on 12/8/14 at 5:38 pm to
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
14037 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 5:38 pm to
Hell yea. Added another $13k over the last several weeks. We drop a bit tomorrow I'll move in another 5k
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37694 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 8:40 pm to
Cliff notes on risk vs. Reward here?
Posted by LSUGUMBO
Shreveport, LA
Member since Sep 2005
8491 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 10:38 pm to
It's been so volatile, you could probably buy and Sell every few days and probably make a pretty good chunk of change
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37694 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 8:44 am to
quote:

Cliff notes on risk vs. Reward here?
Posted by jsquardjj
Member since Oct 2009
1317 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 8:47 am to
back under $2 today
Posted by donRANDOMnumbers
Hub City
Member since Nov 2006
16900 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 9:14 am to
This is a falling knife and we are all under it. Not gas is dropping and this is gonna follow it. Yall are better off catching it on the upswing, even if you miss the initial pop.

Good luck
Posted by sneakytiger
Member since Oct 2007
2471 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 9:20 am to
If crude prices stay depressed, demand for these projects drys up.
Posted by Ole War Skule
North Shore
Member since Sep 2003
3409 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 9:20 am to
quote:

This is a falling knife and we are all under it. Not gas is dropping and this is gonna follow it.


yep, I'm going to close out for now...between oil crashing and nat gas not far behind, speculative buys like this are too much for me
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
14037 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 9:43 am to
I hit really big on the intended initial... I pulled out at $4.00 50% of my stake due to volatility. This project has moved significantly toward the actual building process. Pretty much all the boxes have been ticked minus the ferc application being finished. I've bought back in all the way down another 35%. The plan is strong. Area great. Process great. Just missing the finals pieces. Last year I would give it a 10% chance of building. Now its a 90% chance. People have been shorting and playing this stock. The big ballers are in heavy at 2.47 and 3.03... they own 20% of the stock and aren't selling. I'm so damn happy over this. Don't panic. They are shipping and storage so they are buffered from the oil drop. They are not exploring for it. Good luck and due your own research. I'm in long haul.
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
14037 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 10:00 am to
Even if oil is depressed in the short term they will inflate again. This project is strong and I invest for long term. My short term trades pay off little. This is in my retirement account. I have money staged for monkey island LNG as well. That one is more risky at this point in the game. Magnolia has their skc signed to build. They have not been delayed on a government request. Have passed the environmental and coast guard regulations not to mention adding in Canada And looking to add another site in north america in 2015
Posted by Ole War Skule
North Shore
Member since Sep 2003
3409 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 10:08 am to
thanks for the info...I read up a bit on it, but the recent price movements seem tied directly to oil & gas prices, not the project, which is why I'm out for a while...I'll hop back in if it falls a bit, or stabilizes
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
14037 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 10:51 am to
NP skule. I've been reading and watching for a long time. Their osimar process saves on 30% of the operational costs as well. Awesome location. I was happy as a lark to see it drop down so I can move in again.
This post was edited on 12/9/14 at 10:55 am
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
14037 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 5:34 pm to
Here is a jam up site for reading. Its the board for lnglf in Australia. Their market opens at 5pm CST and you can watch them on the ASX in the evening trading.

LINK
Posted by PetroAg
Member since Jun 2013
1273 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 8:36 am to
Release on FERC progress

LINK
Posted by Ole War Skule
North Shore
Member since Sep 2003
3409 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 8:47 am to
and down another 3%

maybe time for me to get back in.....
Posted by BobRoss
Member since Jun 2014
1694 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 9:29 am to
LNG is expensive, so obviously cheap oil is hitting this stock hard. I don't know how long the Saudi's can keep their game going, but I don't imagine it will last for too long.
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
14037 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 4:06 pm to
No it won't. It will go up again. The big players are still expanding.

The epa alone is shutting coal fired plants... what are you going to replace power generation with? LNG is a solid choice. We have 9 LNG fired boilers at our facility alone. Different sizes. 5 are huge. Two eat 1.5 million cubic feet of gas a day. Do your own research though and feel comfortable. We might see more of a retreat until the ferc is completed. Lnglf has till Dec. 29 to reply to ferc. They are close to final acceptance.
Posted by BobRoss
Member since Jun 2014
1694 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 4:44 pm to
I thought the purpose of liquefying Nat. Gas was to make transport easier? And it's main consumers were overseas countries without natural energy stores? LNG is more expensive than nat gas, and as oil gets cheaper then LNG would be less attractive.

Why does your plant use LNG rather than nat. gas?
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
14037 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 9:46 pm to
Sorry I meant natural gas. It is dersireable as a power source. Worldwide.

Here's a good article showing a good bargain lnglf is as the market assumes lng prices are directly tied to oil..

world lng prices
Posted by sneakytiger
Member since Oct 2007
2471 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 11:24 am to
Link isn't working for me. LNG pricing is stupid complex, but is typically contractually tied to the price of crude and crude products. So the market is correct to assume that. Cheniere is probably the first, if not the only group, to peg a LNG supply deal to the price of NG.

LINK

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Asian spot LNG prices LNG-AS have more than halved since the start of the year to below $10 per million British thermal units (mmBtu).

Average import prices into Japan, the world's top buyer, are forecast to fall to about $11 per mmBtu next year, down from an estimated $15.50 this year and $16.45 in 2013, if Brent crude averages around $75 a barrel, according to David Hewitt, co-head of global oil and gas equity research at Credit Suisse.
This post was edited on 12/12/14 at 11:35 am
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