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Why Obamacare isn't going anywhere: emotional stories like this

Posted on 6/14/14 at 11:29 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69251 posts
Posted on 6/14/14 at 11:29 pm
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An Arizona woman was recovering at home on Wednesday after having a 47.5-pound (21.5 kg) tumor removed from her abdomen during life-saving surgery, doctors said.

The University of Arizona Medical Center surgeons worked for 10 hours to remove the massive liposarcoma, a cancer in the abdominal muscle, that had invaded Marcey DiCaro's inferior vena cava -- the body's largest vein. DiCaro stopped breathing and her heart stopped during the surgery.

"If the tumor had been let go, it would have killed me," DiCaro, of Tucson, said in a statement. "I'm happy to be going on walks and getting back in the pool and getting out and enjoying life."

In 2011, DiCaro noticed that her belly was getting bigger and she felt some transient pain, the hospital said. She had a scan In March 2012 that revealed a tumor but she lacked health insurance.

The hospital canceled surgery slated for 2013 because her insurance company would only pay for a small portion of the full costs, DiCaro said.

The hospital said DiCaro was able to get insurance that would cover pre-existing conditions this year because of a provision in the 2010 Affordable Care Act, President Barack Obama's signature healthcare reform law. She underwent surgery on April 17.

The tumor had also enveloped her kidney requiring removal during surgery, along with her gallbladder.


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We don't really know the other side of the story, so we are left with being forced to worship obamacare.

-no mention of alternatives for the woman before obamacare
-no mention of why the woman waited so long that the tumor got to 47 pounds
-no mention of the other side of the cost equation
-portrays government as savior
-no mention of who will be shouldering the costs
-absolutely no background on why the woman was uninsured in the first place
This post was edited on 6/14/14 at 11:42 pm
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 6/14/14 at 11:43 pm to
policymaking by anecdote!

yippee

totally predictable, why I hate these people

Paying for something that was preexisting is not "insurance", stupidity of people is amazing, isn't it?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69251 posts
Posted on 6/14/14 at 11:46 pm to
It is willful ignorance by huffpost.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 6/14/14 at 11:50 pm to
People can see right through using a tragedy to advance something as public policy.

A success story that improved a personal situation is an entirely different animal even though we know this is not what ObamaCare will be doing on a mass level in an orderly and efficient manner.
Posted by yumahog
Independence, Missouri
Member since Jun 2012
803 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 12:10 am to
Will be the exception not the rule.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 12:18 am to
With ObamaCare and Iraq causing insurance and transportation costs to skyrocket . .

You can bet insurance mandates will be the first to go when people cant afford to eat or get to work

Her surgery wasnt free. Someone paid
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62374 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 12:19 am to
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Her surgery wasnt free. Someone paid


Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69251 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 12:21 am to
the article didn't mention it, and that pisses me off
This post was edited on 6/15/14 at 12:21 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123780 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 5:14 am to
quote:

Why Obamacare isn't going anywhere: emotional stories like this


It will be a juxtaposition of isolated vague anecdotes vs pervasive problems in terms of taxes and coverage.
quote:

What many don't know is that if they've enrolled in an Obamacare exchange plan with a government subsidy, they could also find themselves on the hook to Uncle Sam next spring.

"It's not a subsidy; it's an advanced tax credit. It's actually based on a previous year's income," explained William Cobb, chief executive of H&R Block, the nation's largest tax-preparation service.

So if your income changes this year, he said, the amount of your tax credit could be impacted.
"When the year is finished and you're filing your taxes, that's when the reconciliation occurs against your actual income," Cobb said. "If you made more money, you're going to owe money back against your tax credit."

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Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
21450 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 6:18 am to
This kind of story is fodder for the stupid.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
70878 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 6:43 am to
The other side can offer plenty of emotional anecdotes of its own. Only problem is if you got screwed by Obamacare and speak out, the left will attack you personally and dig up dirt on you. But if you even think about checking into the background of the woman mentioned in the OP, you're a heartless ogre.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57092 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 8:49 am to
quote:

emotional stories
Terrible basis for crafting legislation.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40091 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 8:53 am to
quote:

yumahog Why Obamacare isn't going anywhere: emotional stories like this Will be the exception not the rule.
Off the top of my head I can only think of one person that I know who has benefitted from it. She had breast cancer and her husband quit his job and lost their insurance. She got the basic crap insurance plan and claims it is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Off the top of my head again, my insurance went up $25 bucks a semester (buying it through grad school and now my med school), my brother's (27yr old single nonsmoker male) went from a $1500 deductible at $96/month to a $2500 deductible and $379 a month and that is not buying it on the exchange. The cheapest option for him on the exchanges was $400/month but a $10,000 deductible. To get $5000 deductible was $900/month. Freak that crap.
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
10666 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 9:18 am to
The reason why we have Obamacare is that the Republican Party failed to produce an alternative acceptable to a majority of the people to tackle the problem of lack of insurance beyond just saying no to Obamacare.
Posted by Me4Heisman
Landmass
Member since Aug 2004
5509 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 9:21 am to
Every time you post I actually envision the cartoon character typing it out.
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 9:27 am to
quote:

Why Obamacare isn't going anywhere: emotional stories like this


While I agree that the chances of repealing Obamacare are slim, it is possible. After the employer mandate is fully implemented and the doodoo hits the fan, Obamacare will be even less popular than it is already. Bottom line: pre-existing conditions and people in general without healthcare could have been managed through a separate program that did not screw up healthcare for everyone.
Posted by NbamaTiger90
Member since Sep 2012
1752 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 9:30 am to
1 > 329,999,999

It's such a feel good story
Posted by Paluka
One State Over
Member since Dec 2010
10763 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 9:56 am to
Surprised a medical school wouldn't jump at the chance to remove it and teach in the process.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 10:13 am to
The government could have subsidized pre-existing conditions without ACA and without screwing the rest of us.

ACA did nothing to fundamentally change the flawed pricing models we have in health care. The government is a poor shopper for health care and overpays for everything thus raising the cost for all of us as providers can not sell services to private providers cheaper than they sell them to the government.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
70878 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 10:50 am to
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