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Hagel latest to be tossed under obama bus
Posted on 6/10/14 at 8:45 am
Posted on 6/10/14 at 8:45 am
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'They indicated (it was) Secretary Hagel (who made the final call),' Rep. Buck McKeon (R-CA) said after a classified briefing, ABC points out.
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'It was the president of the United States that came out (in the Rose Garden) with the Bergdahls and took all the credit and now that there’s been a little pushback he’s moving away from it and it’s Secretary Hagel?'
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Got to wonder how much more room there is under that thing.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 8:49 am to wilfont
This post was edited on 6/10/14 at 8:50 am
Posted on 6/10/14 at 8:49 am to wilfont
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'They indicated (it was) Secretary Hagel (who made the final call),'
So does Hagel have the authority to release a prisoner? I know its within the Presidents powers, but I highly doubt it is within Hagels.
If Hagel made the call, then Congress should hold hearings and find him in violation of the law... I guarantee if he is prosecuted, he will sing like a bird.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 8:56 am to Lsut81
Look up "fall guy" in the dictionary and you'll find a picture of Hagel.
Everyone involved knew he wasn't that smart and would be a hand-puppet for whatever Obama wanted, which is why many on the right didn't want him approved as SecDef to begin with.
This administration wouldn't give Hagel the authority to do anything other than make coffee without WH approval. And given how dim he is, I bet he could frick that up on his own.
Everyone involved knew he wasn't that smart and would be a hand-puppet for whatever Obama wanted, which is why many on the right didn't want him approved as SecDef to begin with.
This administration wouldn't give Hagel the authority to do anything other than make coffee without WH approval. And given how dim he is, I bet he could frick that up on his own.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 8:57 am to Lsut81
The president has already accepted responsibility and said he stands behind his decision.
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“I make absolutely no apologies for making sure we get back a young man to his parents and that the American people understand this is somebody’s child and that we don’t condition whether or not we make the effort try to get them back,” he said.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 8:59 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
And yet they keep trotting out people to take the blame for him.
I don't think "I make absolutely no apologies" means what he THINKS it does.
I don't think "I make absolutely no apologies" means what he THINKS it does.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 8:59 am to Choctaw
Barry is never accountable for anything.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 8:59 am to wilfont
Tomorrow it will be reported that Obama learned about Hagel's swop only after reading the morning paper the day after.
Watch
Watch
Posted on 6/10/14 at 9:01 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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The president has already accepted responsibility and said he stands behind his decision.
I believe what they may be spinning is that they went on Hagel's recommendation. Also, it was Hagel who pushed the dire illness angle.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 9:01 am to Lsut81
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If Hagel made the call, then Congress should hold hearings and find him in violation of the law... I guarantee if he is prosecuted, he will sing like a bird.
Don't hold your breath. He's a former Senator, member of 'the club.' They don't go after their own very often.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 9:04 am to mtntiger
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Don't hold your breath. He's a former Senator, member of 'the club.' They don't go after their own very often.
Zombie John Tower says "Hi!"
Posted on 6/10/14 at 9:05 am to mtntiger
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Don't hold your breath.
Oh, I'm not... I'm just pointing out the clusterfrick that this has become.
Either the President authorized this, which it seems that he can under the Constitution, or Hagel did, which he cannot do.
You can't have it both ways. If they are now trying to say that Hagel made the call, then he should be prosecuted.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 9:07 am to Lsut81
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Oh, I'm not... I'm just pointing out the clusterfrick that this has become. Either the President authorized this, which it seems that he can under the Constitution, or Hagel did, which he cannot do. You can't have it both ways. If they are now trying to say that Hagel made the call, then he should be prosecuted.
You have a strange way of thinking. What do you think the president is supposed to do? Lead, run the country, and be commander in chief?
Hell no, he has to campaign. Where would he ever find time to do all those other things.
Hagel did it.
This post was edited on 6/10/14 at 9:22 am
Posted on 6/10/14 at 9:08 am to Lsut81
quote:There's no way Obama can avoid owning this one. He can't claim he read about the trade in the NYT and is mad as hell.
You can't have it both ways
What they may be doing is attempting to mitigate the blame a bit by putting the impetus for the move on Hagel. Pointing a finger is part of their political strategy and is well within their wheelhouse.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 9:08 am to wilfont
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'It strikes me as unfortunate that they could have 80 to 90 people in the administration aware of what was happening and not be able to trust a single Republican or Democrat in the House or the Senate,' Rep. Greg Walden (R-OR), said, Reuters points out.
quote:I always find it strange when some member of Congress comes out of a classified meeting with statements to the press.
'They indicated (it was) Secretary Hagel (who made the final call),' Rep. Buck McKeon (R-CA) said after a classified briefing, ABC points out.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 9:10 am to doubleb
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If they are now trying to say that Hagel made the call, then he should be prosecuted.
Yup. BHO get Holder on the phone. He watched the news and has seen the light. The closet republican did it to embarrass the Prez Sounds legit.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 9:11 am to mmcgrath
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I always find it strange when some member of Congress comes out of a classified meeting with statements to the press.
They don't prosecute this kind of stuff.
If the Dems tried, there is a certain member of the House who would be singled out because, as a staffer to a top House member in the 80s, she directly called the Marxists in Grenada and told them that the US was about to invade and where they were going to hit. That got US servicemen killed.
Apparently Dems love to tell that little story over dinner parties.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 9:41 am to teke184
quote:link?
If the Dems tried, there is a certain member of the House who would be singled out because, as a staffer to a top House member in the 80s, she directly called the Marxists in Grenada and told them that the US was about to invade and where they were going to hit. That got US servicemen killed.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 9:50 am to Lsut81
quote:This administration has had it both ways for 6 years. Obama takes credit for anything positive. How many times did he use the "I" word after OBL was killed. When something negative happens "he found out about it after watching the news".
You can't have it both ways
Posted on 6/10/14 at 9:53 am to skinny domino
Rep. Ron Dellums was an openly Socialist member of the House in the 70s, 80s, and 90s, and a one-time House Armed Services Committee chair.
Both he and his chief of staff, Carlottia Scott, were very close with the Marxist government of Grenada. Letters between that government and Scott were found in the papers when the government were overthown and there is proof of collusion between Dellums, Scott, and the Grenada government in trying to
Freaking Salon.com did an article on her and her past at one point.
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There seems to be no documentary proof of Scott calling the Grenadan Marxists to warn of the invasion, but there is a lot of word-of-mouth about it in part because she was sending freaking love letters to the leader of the junta.
Both he and his chief of staff, Carlottia Scott, were very close with the Marxist government of Grenada. Letters between that government and Scott were found in the papers when the government were overthown and there is proof of collusion between Dellums, Scott, and the Grenada government in trying to
Freaking Salon.com did an article on her and her past at one point.
LINK /
There seems to be no documentary proof of Scott calling the Grenadan Marxists to warn of the invasion, but there is a lot of word-of-mouth about it in part because she was sending freaking love letters to the leader of the junta.
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