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how would you rank these AR manufactures
Posted on 6/6/14 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 6/6/14 at 2:12 pm
I made a similar post a few days back and I've now decided on the AR platform over a M14 style
Looking to stay in the $1000 range but will go up to $1500 : 556/223 : want something in the 16-18" barrel length, for plinking, range shooting and want something fairly light weight, accurate with a good trigger and smooth. Not going to put a scope on it for now, iron sights and maybe a holographic sight like EOtech
I don't want to do a build but not opposed to purchasing a complete upper and lower of separate manufacturer.
Colt
Sig
S & W
LMT
DPMS
Daniel Defense
BCM
Looking to stay in the $1000 range but will go up to $1500 : 556/223 : want something in the 16-18" barrel length, for plinking, range shooting and want something fairly light weight, accurate with a good trigger and smooth. Not going to put a scope on it for now, iron sights and maybe a holographic sight like EOtech
I don't want to do a build but not opposed to purchasing a complete upper and lower of separate manufacturer.
Colt
Sig
S & W
LMT
DPMS
Daniel Defense
BCM
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Posted on 6/6/14 at 2:16 pm to spacewrangler
Daniel Defense
BCM
LMT
Colt
Sig
S&W
DPMS
BCM
LMT
Colt
Sig
S&W
DPMS
Posted on 6/6/14 at 2:20 pm to Broke
quote:
Daniel Defense
BCM
LMT
Colt
Sig
S&W
DPMS
^^ This
Posted on 6/6/14 at 2:21 pm to Broke
BCM & Daniel Defense
everything else
DPMS
everything else
DPMS
Posted on 6/6/14 at 2:22 pm to Broke
Hard to argue with this.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 2:30 pm to Broke
quote:Yep
Daniel Defense
BCM
LMT
Colt
Sig
S&W
DPMS
Posted on 6/6/14 at 2:51 pm to TigerTatorTots
A lot of those are pretty interchangeable also. But DPMS is definitely last
Posted on 6/6/14 at 2:58 pm to TigerTatorTots
Agree with the order, but the gap between S&W and DPMS is pretty big.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 3:05 pm to Broke
Guy at work is swearing by his new Windham. Where does it fall in that pecking order?
Posted on 6/6/14 at 3:08 pm to DrTyger
of course custom manufacturers are going to be thought of higher than the "Box Store" gun manufacturers.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 3:09 pm to bootlegger
About where Colt and Sig are. Maybe a little lower. Windham is the old Bushmaster. Same facility, same employees, different name.
I actually own a Windham upper. It's on my AR now.
I actually own a Windham upper. It's on my AR now.
This post was edited on 6/6/14 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 6/6/14 at 3:12 pm to spacewrangler
What about LRB?
Posted on 6/6/14 at 3:18 pm to DrTyger
here's some info relating to AR lowers. (see link below)
..... " There are only a few actual companies that completely mill there own stuff and all the rest are subcontracted. List below of who mills for who .
LMT- mills for
Lauer, DS arms, PWA, Eagle, Armalite, Knights Armament, And Barrett
CMT- mills for
Stag, Rock River Arms, High standard, Noveski, Century, Global tactical, CLE, S & W, MGI, Wilson Tactical, Grenadier, Precision, Colt
LAR- mills for
Bushmaster, Ameetec, DPMS, CMMG, Double star, Fulton Armory, Spikes tactical
JVP- mills for
Double star, LRB
Mega Machine- mills for
GSE, Dalphon, POF, Alexander Arms
Olympic- mills for
SGW, Tromix, Palmetto, Dalphon, Frankford, Century
Sun devil was designed by TKS engeneering
Superior arms mills for superior.
....... " ....
AR lower manufacturers
buy what AR you like the most, has the best fit & finish, best CS and reputation, and most importantly, your budget .
.
.
..... " There are only a few actual companies that completely mill there own stuff and all the rest are subcontracted. List below of who mills for who .
LMT- mills for
Lauer, DS arms, PWA, Eagle, Armalite, Knights Armament, And Barrett
CMT- mills for
Stag, Rock River Arms, High standard, Noveski, Century, Global tactical, CLE, S & W, MGI, Wilson Tactical, Grenadier, Precision, Colt
LAR- mills for
Bushmaster, Ameetec, DPMS, CMMG, Double star, Fulton Armory, Spikes tactical
JVP- mills for
Double star, LRB
Mega Machine- mills for
GSE, Dalphon, POF, Alexander Arms
Olympic- mills for
SGW, Tromix, Palmetto, Dalphon, Frankford, Century
Sun devil was designed by TKS engeneering
Superior arms mills for superior.
....... " ....
AR lower manufacturers
buy what AR you like the most, has the best fit & finish, best CS and reputation, and most importantly, your budget .
.
.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 3:18 pm to spacewrangler
LMT is just as good as DD or BCM.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 3:19 pm to Clyde Tipton
How many people can really give an honest answer because they have owned most of these over several years with lots of rounds through each them?
This post was edited on 6/6/14 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 6/6/14 at 3:20 pm to DrTyger
Thank you for replies: guys. Basically DPMS is way below and I should stay away.
I have heard really good things about the S & W VTAC model. Anyone here with experience with them?
Within the next hour or so I'm going to post a list of models from each manufacturer that fit my criteria. And with the help from the good folks here at the OB board I might be able to make up my mind from all the choices and actually pick one, order it and then go blast the mother fricker and report back
I have heard really good things about the S & W VTAC model. Anyone here with experience with them?
Within the next hour or so I'm going to post a list of models from each manufacturer that fit my criteria. And with the help from the good folks here at the OB board I might be able to make up my mind from all the choices and actually pick one, order it and then go blast the mother fricker and report back
Posted on 6/6/14 at 3:24 pm to spacewrangler
quote:
I have heard really good things about the S & W VTAC model. Anyone here with experience with them?
I have one and love it.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 3:27 pm to Crawdaddy
quote:
How many people can really give an honest answer because they have own most of these over several years with lots of rounds through each them?
I think the same thing every time I see a question like this. Although, whether or not DPMS is a quality manufacturer....I would still not purchase for plain fear of the looks I would get for owning.
Spend $1000 or less on the rifle and the other $500 on the optic. For real, Eotech (I know there are haters out there) has up to $75 rebate that started a couple of days ago.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 3:34 pm to spacewrangler
quote:
Basically DPMS is way below and I should stay away.
10 yrs ago DPMS made a respectable product ... not the best, but affordable with decent quality
in 2007 they sold out to Cerberus (Freedom Group) . Within the last 5-6 yrs, many other companies have passed up DPMS by focusing on "quality not quantity" . Cerberus Capitol is basically a bunch of bean counters looking to turn profit.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 3:42 pm to DrTyger
quote:I'd say S&W and DPMS are very close. Both companies have value ARs in the 500-700 range. Both produce a solid high end AR around $1000.
Agree with the order, but the gap between S&W and DPMS is pretty big.
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