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College expels "rapist" for having consensual sex
Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:02 am
Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:02 am
And the result of Federal involvement in campus life? Hysteria and injustice:'
W in TF??? Really?
So not rape per the actual law.
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If you ever got drunk with a girl in college and then had consensual sex with her you are a "rapist"....Awesome. I think this really does qualify as a "Thanks Obama!".
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The student, identified only as "John Doe," had sex with his accuser on September 8th, 2013, according to details of the case obtained by the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education. Both Doe and his accuser had been drinking. By several accounts, the sex was consensual. The accuser sent Doe a text message beforehand asking him if he had a condom. She also texted a friend and clearly announced her intention to have sex with Doe.
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After that night, the accuser spoke with several Occidental employees, including Danielle Dirks, an assistant professor of sociology. Dirks told the accuser that Doe "fit the profile of other rapists on campus in that he had a high GPA in high school, was his class valedictorian, was on [a sports team], and was 'from a good family.'"
W in TF??? Really?
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The Los Angeles Police Department determined that both parties had consented to sex and decided not to charge Doe:
"Witnesses were interviewed and agreed that the victim and suspect were both drunk, however, that they were both willing participants exercising bad judgment …. It would be reasonable for [Doe] to conclude based on their communications and [the accuser’s] actions that, even though she was intoxicated, she could still exercise reasonable judgment."
So not rape per the actual law.
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Occidental College, however, is under pressure to be seen as doing something about sexual assault on campus given the federal investigation into its rape prevention practices, so the college hired attorney Marilou Mirkovich to investigate the matter. Mirkovich concluded that the female student did indeed consent to sex. However, since she was intoxicated, her consent was invalid, according to Mirkovich.
This is a flawed interpretation of Occidental's own policy on consent, which requires students be not merely drunk but actively incapacitated for rape to have occurred, according to FIRE Vice President Robert Shibley.
Indeed, Mirkovich's interpretation makes no sense. If all drunken sex is rape, then Doe and his accuser are both guilty.
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If you ever got drunk with a girl in college and then had consensual sex with her you are a "rapist"....Awesome. I think this really does qualify as a "Thanks Obama!".
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:03 am to cwill
Don't want to be called a rapist, don't have sex outside of marriage. Simple. You reap what you sow
Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:04 am to cwill
bullshite overreaction because they weren't doing their job and actually dealing with sexual assault now they gotta sacrifice this poor guy.
Law Suit [on] off
Law Suit [on] off
Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:05 am to goldennugget
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Don't want to be called a rapist, don't have sex outside of marriage. Simple. You reap what you sow
But only one way, clearly.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:06 am to goldennugget
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Don't want to be called a rapist, don't have sex outside of marriage. Simple. You reap what you sow
Ok Elliot.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:06 am to goldennugget
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Don't want to be called a rapist, don't have sex outside of marriage. Simple. You reap what you sow
I'm just going to assume you're joking
Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:08 am to cwill
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Danielle Dirks, an assistant professor of sociology
Here's your problem right here...
Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:09 am to goldennugget
Oh stfu.
They state numerous times that she was drunk. So what he was too. He should file charges against her for rape too then since it was consensual except he was drunk.
They state numerous times that she was drunk. So what he was too. He should file charges against her for rape too then since it was consensual except he was drunk.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:11 am to cwill
Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:12 am to cwill
According to that rationale there's a pretty good chance that 85% of my sexual encounters weren't "consensual". Also, there was a pretty good chance that I was drunk as well on many of those encounters. Did I get raped/assaulted and just didn't know it?
Just another step in the direction of alleviating all consequences for poor decisions. Got drunk and had sex with some dude who turned out to be an a-hole? There's an easy way to make sure that doesn't happen again. However that would require the "victim" to take some accountability for the bad act. Of course, it's just easier to blame and accuse the other person of raping you.
Just another step in the direction of alleviating all consequences for poor decisions. Got drunk and had sex with some dude who turned out to be an a-hole? There's an easy way to make sure that doesn't happen again. However that would require the "victim" to take some accountability for the bad act. Of course, it's just easier to blame and accuse the other person of raping you.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:14 am to cwill
I'll bet there's at least one attorney in the L.A. area willing to take on this man's cause. We created an environment where consensual, non criminal activity can still land you in a world of trouble.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:14 am to cwill
Hopefully he takes legal action.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:15 am to cwill
"Women have a right to control their own bodies!"
"Women can't be expected to control how much they drink or who they have sex with! Ruin that man's life!"
"Women can't be expected to control how much they drink or who they have sex with! Ruin that man's life!"
Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:16 am to cwill
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And the result of Federal involvement in campus life?
If you don't like federally supported colleges don't go to one.
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If you ever got drunk with a girl in college and then had consensual sex with her you are a "rapist"..
I never had to get girls drunk to frick em.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:18 am to Alt26
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Just another step in the direction of alleviating all consequences for poor decisions. Got drunk and had sex with some dude who turned out to be an a-hole? There's an easy way to make sure that doesn't happen again. However that would require the "victim" to take some accountability for the bad act. Of course, it's just easier to blame and accuse the other person of raping you.
The accused is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law - we know that already.
But what I've learned from reading your post is that the accuser is guilty, without trial.
This post was edited on 6/5/14 at 9:19 am
Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:19 am to SpidermanTUba
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I never had to get girls drunk to frick em.
Neither did Doe. Remember, this "victim" planned to have sex with him and stated so.
You (Tuba) should be capable of using reasonable judgement here. Zero Tolerance type attitudes are lazy and an evolutionary U-Turn.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:19 am to SpidermanTUba
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I never had to get girls drunk to frick em.
Bars didn't accept your EBT?
Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:20 am to SpidermanTUba
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I never had to get girls drunk to frick em.
like any girl has ever let you touch them with those fat sausage fingers
Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:20 am to cwill
Is it the official stance of the right wing that drunken college boys deserve due process before being treated as a criminal - but members of the U.S. military do not? That's what I've gathered from this thread and others over the past few days.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:21 am to SpidermanTUba
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I never had to get girls drunk to frick em.
thats because your hand never says no, virgin fattie.
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