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Compensation Discussion Among Employees...taboo?

Posted on 6/2/14 at 3:09 pm
Posted by Sigma
Fairhope, AL
Member since Dec 2005
3643 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 3:09 pm
Is there a universal rule that salary and compensation are not to be discussed by employees? Or does it vary from place to place?

Had a bit of a situation and am wondering what it's like elsewhere.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35482 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 3:13 pm to
It's a good way to get fired. Taboo subject.
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50337 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 3:14 pm to
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Compensation Discussion Among Employees...taboo?


It's a great way to destroy a workplace.
Posted by GoldenSombrero
Member since Sep 2010
2651 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 3:16 pm to
Personally I don't like to discuss it...can't lead to anything positive IMO. Either someone's pissed at you for making more, or you're left wondering how the idiot in the cube next makes more than you.

Now if it's commission related maybe it's not a big deal. At my company our sales comp plan is the same for everyone so it's no secret. But I have no idea what non-sales people make...nor do I want to.
This post was edited on 6/2/14 at 3:17 pm
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80182 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 3:17 pm to
I don't know about a formal rule from the employer, but it's uncouth as frick.
Posted by Sigma
Fairhope, AL
Member since Dec 2005
3643 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 3:19 pm to
Salary and stock awards/sales of executives in publicly traded companies are easily found. Private companies different? Non executives?
Posted by Sigma
Fairhope, AL
Member since Dec 2005
3643 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 3:24 pm to
quote:

I don't know about a formal rule from the employer, but it's uncouth as frick.


No numbers were mentioned but I made an assumption about a coworker in answering a question that turned out to be incorrect. I felt squirmy and I was just curious.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37034 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 4:01 pm to
Base compensation discussions generally do not result in any positive situations. Therefore, most people avoid it.

Now in our firm, we have a marketing bonus program, that results in each employee, once a year, getting a check based on their personal performance in the marketing program. All of the checks are given out at a staff meeting, and the gross bonus (before any sort of deductions/withholding) is shared with everyone when the check is handed out. This is seen as sort of a motivational tool, since the determination of the amount is via a formula that everyone knows.
Posted by eelsuee
2B+!2B
Member since Oct 2004
4503 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 4:14 pm to
It typically leads to resentment by some employees. It is widely considered a morale killer and employers, at a minimum, frown upon it.
Posted by Beerinthepocket
Dallas
Member since May 2011
851 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 5:44 pm to
I'd say it differs from company to company.

At my firm everyone is paid about the same as others of the same seniority so it gets discussed all the time and no one really gets upset about it because you know you'll be making the same amount as another person when you get to that level.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26575 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 6:20 pm to
My experience is that it is talked about like any other normal subject and nobody comes off as offended or wanting more. If anything, most are motivated to elevate themselves and pursue new opportunities.

If a casual compensation discussion really causes that much discomfort for your group, I would think they are over sensitive in general.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11475 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 7:21 pm to
If you are happy with the amount of money you make it is never good to join in the discussion. There is never anything good that can come of it.
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
25730 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 7:36 pm to
Immediate dismissal to discuss pay at my office. It is one thing they tell everyone when they are hired.
Posted by Beerinthepocket
Dallas
Member since May 2011
851 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 7:54 pm to
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Immediate dismissal to discuss pay at my office. It is one thing they tell everyone when they are hired.


It seems like that would be appropriate policy among admin staff, laborers, and other positions with a low ceiling in upward mobility.

In a professional environment in which each employee has just as much chance as the next guy or gal to move up I think transparency can be beneficial.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32390 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 7:56 pm to
I've only worked with one person who I was close enough to talk about stuff like that with, and we were friends before she started working with me. We didn't care and weren't resentful about anything, but we did work in different roles.

It's easy to find out how much people make in my situation though. It was actually posted on a share point site under the human resources once.
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7211 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 9:11 pm to
We never talk about it at my company.
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 10:32 pm to
The law is clear, if you are a non-supervisor employee, it is a violation of the NLRA to discipline or fire an employee who discusses his wages.

For a supervisor and above employee, fire 'em.

BUT, under Obama's new Executive Order just a few weeks back, ALL employees of government contractors can discuss wages without repercussion -- supervisors included.
Posted by Mariner
Mandeville, LA
Member since Jul 2009
1928 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 9:01 am to
We talk about it all the time.

The difference is that our job is specialized with similarly motivated individuals requiring certificates which require worktime and classes. Its actually a morale builder. Discussions are like "johnny, once you get that class or cert you will be making bucks like me". It motivates people. But, the structure is much different than most workplaces.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:09 am to
quote:

Is there a universal rule that salary and compensation are not to be discussed by employees

in the US, this is definitely the case.

Outside the US, its more acceptable (varies by country). I know in India and china its common, same thing with parts of south america. For certain professions in europe, its common knowledge how much you make due to unions.

Honestly we would benefit collectively as workers if we did discuss wages.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
24863 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:25 am to
quote:

Immediate dismissal to discuss pay at my office. It is one thing they tell everyone when they are hired.


Your company is just asking for a slam dunk NLRB unfair labor practices charge to be brought against it. That policy clearly violates the law.
This post was edited on 6/3/14 at 11:27 am
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