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Alternate reality Kirk is a god awful captain (Spoilers)
Posted on 6/1/14 at 11:55 am
Posted on 6/1/14 at 11:55 am
Just watched Into Darkness again and holy shite this guy is an idiot. Not only does he needlessly risk everyone's life with the stunt with the volcano but he makes mistake after mistake in the lead up to capturing Khan. He lets Scotty quit, completely ignoring his very valid concerns about what the effect the new photons might have on the warp core and THEN he decides to go to Kronos anyway even after the warp core is damaged and his new chief of engineering clearly has no idea what he's doing. And that's just the first 1/3rd of the movie.
He consistently takes ridiculous risks and while his bravery in saving the ship is admirable, the only reason the Enterprise was even in that situation is because of his reckless decisions.
He consistently takes ridiculous risks and while his bravery in saving the ship is admirable, the only reason the Enterprise was even in that situation is because of his reckless decisions.
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Posted on 6/1/14 at 11:56 am to Draconian Sanctions
Kirk is a hero
Posted on 6/1/14 at 11:57 am to Draconian Sanctions
Very young captain. The best teacher is experience and poor choices.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 12:02 pm to Barrister
In the movie is a very untested Captain trying to prove himself. By the end of the movie he realizes he no longer needs to prove himself...he simply needs to lead.
In the Original series is he is a great leader but not remotely professional until they get to the movies.
In the Original series is he is a great leader but not remotely professional until they get to the movies.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 12:14 pm to Draconian Sanctions
I think that was the literal point and intended.
Remember the conversation with Pike early on?
He shoots from the hip in defiance of the rules and skated by on luck, although Kirk took it as validation of ability.
The events of the movie were a big growing up for him.
I did find that exchange amusing because it was exactly that rule disregarding hotshot behavior that got him the Enterprise in the first place.
Remember the conversation with Pike early on?
He shoots from the hip in defiance of the rules and skated by on luck, although Kirk took it as validation of ability.
The events of the movie were a big growing up for him.
I did find that exchange amusing because it was exactly that rule disregarding hotshot behavior that got him the Enterprise in the first place.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 12:23 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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He consistently takes ridiculous risks and while his bravery in saving the ship is admirable, the only reason the Enterprise was even in that situation is because of his reckless decisions.
You just described James T. Kirk's career.
Picard > Kirk
TNG > TOS
TOS movies > TNG movies
Posted on 6/1/14 at 12:32 pm to alajones
Double Fist Punch > Anything Patrick Stewart can do.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 12:53 pm to alajones
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Picard > Kirk
frick no
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TNG > TOS
Hell no
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TOS movies > TNG movies
without question.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 12:54 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Doesn't matter. Two aliens at the same time.
FWIW, just watched Into Darkness for the first time yesterday. I dug it.
FWIW, just watched Into Darkness for the first time yesterday. I dug it.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 12:56 pm to MrFreakinMiyagi
I didn't say that I didn't like the movie, just that Kirk is a shitty captain
Posted on 6/1/14 at 1:04 pm to Volvagia
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I think that was the literal point and intended
This. Kirk starts out as an idiot but learns his lessons as he takes his lumps during the movie. You can see him mature as he learns to listen to Spock and check himself. It was quite the character development.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 2:58 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Alternate reality Kirk is a god awful captain
And my legions grow...muahahahahahaha!
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:30 pm to Draconian Sanctions
He was no worse than your insight into the character that is Jame T. Kirk. 
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:50 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Not only does he needlessly risk everyone's life
How is this any different from the original Kirk?
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:55 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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I didn't say that I didn't like the movie, just that Kirk is a shitty captain
I didn't say that you didn't like the movie.
Just that I did like it.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 5:33 pm to Ace Midnight
Chris Pine's Kirk >>>>>>>> William Shatner's Kirk
Posted on 6/1/14 at 5:57 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Sure, but you're pretty terrible.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 6:15 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Not only does he needlessly risk everyone's life with the stunt with the volcano
He didn't risk anyone's life. He exposed the ship to the natives.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 6:29 pm to NOSTRODAMUS
Well, at least not anyone other than himself, Bones, Spock, Sulu, and Uhura.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 12:21 am to Volvagia
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Well, at least not anyone other than himself, Bones, Spock, Sulu, and Uhura.
He SAVED Spock against all regulations then sacrificed himself for the good of the ship.
Have you forgotten that Spock "looked up the answer online" by consulting Old Spock about Khan?
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