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5 Taliban exchanged are high risk to attack again - wanted by UN for atrocities

Posted on 5/31/14 at 12:47 pm
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 5/31/14 at 12:47 pm
Unfricking real.

A senior U.S. defense official confirmed Saturday that the prisoners to be released include Mullah Mohammad Fazl, Mullah Norullah Noori, Abdul Haq Wasiq, Khairullah Khairkhwa and Mohammed Nabi Omari

According to a 2008 Pentagon dossier on Guantanamo Bay inmates, all five men released were considered to be a high risk to launch attacks against the United States and its allies if they were liberated
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Shortly after opening its political office in Doha, Qatar earlier this week, the Taliban floated the idea of exchanging U.S. Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, who has been in captivity since 2009, for the top five Taliban leaders in U.S. custody at Guantanamo. The offer, which has been a longstanding Taliban demand, was first reported by the Associated Press.



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It is easy to see why the Taliban is so keen on freeing them. The five Taliban leaders in question are among Mullah Omar’s most notorious commanders.


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Two of the Taliban commanders have been wanted by the UN for war crimes. JTF-GTMO deemed all five of them “high” risks to the U.S. and its allies. And all five worked closely with al Qaeda prior to their detention.


Mullah Mohammad Fazl (Taliban army chief of staff): Fazl is “wanted by the UN for possible war crimes including the murder of thousands of Shiites.” Fazl “was associated with terrorist groups currently opposing U.S. and Coalition forces including al Qaeda, Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU), Hezb-e-Islami Gulbuddin (HIG), and an Anti-Coalition Militia group known as Harakat-i-Inqilab-i-Islami.” In addition to being one of the Taliban’s most experienced military commanders, Fazl worked closely with a top al Qaeda commander named Abdul Hadi al Iraqi, who headed al Qaeda’s main fighting unit in Afghanistan prior to 9/11 and is currently detained at Guantanamo.

Mullah Norullah Noori (senior Taliban military commander): Like Fazl, Noori is “wanted by the United Nations (UN) for possible war crimes including the murder of thousands of Shiite Muslims.” Beginning in the mid-1990s, Noori “fought alongside al Qaeda as a Taliban military general, against the Northern alliance.” He continued to work closely with al Qaeda in the years that followed.

Abdul Haq Wasiq (Taliban deputy minister of intelligence): Wasiq arranged for al Qaeda members to provide crucial intelligence training prior to 9/11. The training was headed by Hamza Zubayr, an al Qaeda instructor who was killed during the same September 2002 raid that netted Ramzi Binalshibh, the point man for the 9/11 operation. Wasiq “was central to the Taliban's efforts to form alliances with other Islamic fundamentalist groups to fight alongside the Taliban against U.S. and Coalition forces after the 11 September 2001 attacks,” according to a leaked JTF-GTMO threat assessment.

Khairullah Khairkhwa (Taliban governor of the Herat province and former interior minister): Khairkhwa was the governor of Afghanistan’s westernmost province prior to 9/11. In that capacity, he executed sensitive missions for Mullah Omar, including helping to broker a secret deal with the Iranians. For much of the pre-9/11 period, Iran and the Taliban were bitter foes. But a Taliban delegation that included Kharikhwa helped secure Iran’s support for the Taliban’s efforts against the American-led coalition in late 2001. JTF-GTMO found that Khairkhwa was likely a major drug trafficker and deeply in bed with al Qaeda. He allegedly oversaw one of Osama bin Laden’s training facilities in Herat

Mohammed Nabi (senior Taliban figure and security official): Nabi “was a senior Taliban official who served in multiple leadership roles.” Nabi “had strong operational ties to Anti-Coalition Militia (ACM) groups including al Qaeda, the Taliban, the Haqqani Network, and the Hezb-e-Islami Gulbuddin (HIG), some of whom remain active in ACM activities.” Intelligence cited in the JTF-GTMO files indicates that Nabi held weekly meetings with al Qaeda operatives to coordinate attacks against U.S.-led forces

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This post was edited on 5/31/14 at 2:53 pm
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 5/31/14 at 12:50 pm to
What about 'we don't negotiate with terrorists'?
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/31/14 at 12:51 pm to
All 5 would already be dead under my admin.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90738 posts
Posted on 5/31/14 at 12:52 pm to
If those are the five, we didn't negotiate, we gave in to their demands.

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While the U.S. has stripped away its preconditions for the problematic peace talks, the Taliban has continued to insist that the proposed prisoner exchange is a necessary first step for going forward. “First has to be the release of detainees,” Shaheen Suhail, the Taliban’s spokesman, told the Associated Press
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62448 posts
Posted on 5/31/14 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

What about 'we don't negotiate with terrorists'?



We do now...M'fer needed to shift the media focus, so he decided to double down on weak arse Foreign Policy, and change it forever...Every American is less safe today...every one...
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/31/14 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

“First has to be the release of detainees,”
he spelled terrorists wrong.
Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
16188 posts
Posted on 5/31/14 at 2:44 pm to
CNN reporting those are indeed the five that were exchanged:

"Two senior administration officials confirmed the names of the five released detaines as Khair Ulla Said Wali Khairkhwa, Mullah Mohammad Fazl, Mullah Norullah Nori, Abdul Haq Wasiq and Mohammad Nabi Omari."

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Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90738 posts
Posted on 5/31/14 at 2:50 pm to
Unfricking real. Cost was too high.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65114 posts
Posted on 5/31/14 at 2:54 pm to
For precisely ONE prisoner of war. I know every American military serviceman is precious but trading an NCO for five of the Taliban's top commanders? Wow.



This post was edited on 5/31/14 at 2:56 pm
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 5/31/14 at 2:59 pm to
I have a buddy just home from a deployment at Gitmo and close contact with these characters and others of their ilk.

His exact words: if that place were to just burn completely to the ground with all those animals still in it, he'd actually sleep better at night. The world would be a better place.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90738 posts
Posted on 5/31/14 at 3:02 pm to
I've never had so much contempt for an administration, as the one on the Hill now.
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9417 posts
Posted on 5/31/14 at 3:06 pm to
An American soldier is worth 5. Hopefully the powers that be are tracking them for recapture or killing once on the loose.
This post was edited on 5/31/14 at 3:08 pm
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90738 posts
Posted on 5/31/14 at 3:09 pm to
Not these 5. This was a bad move all around. They got exactly what they DEMANDED from Obama.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80160 posts
Posted on 5/31/14 at 3:10 pm to
quote:

Every American is less safe today...every one...


But Snowden did the same thing
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65114 posts
Posted on 5/31/14 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

An American soldier is worth 5


If these were regular grunts that had little to do with strategic planning, I'd agree with you. But these were Mullah Omar's top men back in 2001. They are worth more than a single E4.

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Hopefully the powers that be are tracking them for recapture or killing once on the loose.


They're not. We're currently in peace talks with the Taliban. Killing them now would be a dumb move and would endanger the lives of future Americans who may wind up being captured by the Taliban.

Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90738 posts
Posted on 5/31/14 at 3:13 pm to
Agreed. I also place some blame on Congress for this because of this:

Many in Congress will still be opposed to the swap, but lawmakers gave up their right to stop it. A small change in the Fiscal Year 2014 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), which passed last December, now makes it only a requirement that the Defense Secretary notify Congress when releasing Guantanamo prisoners. Before the change, Congressional sign off on any Guantanamo releases would have been needed.
Posted by Ryne Sandberg
Team Am Mart
Member since Apr 2009
19368 posts
Posted on 5/31/14 at 3:16 pm to
I hope we have a drone following them, immediately killing their whole group once our men are safe
Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 5/31/14 at 3:23 pm to
Here are highly-detailed In-depth profiles of each of the five, prepared by the Department of Defense:

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Note: use the arrows at the bottom to gain access to all pages of each man's profile



Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90738 posts
Posted on 5/31/14 at 3:23 pm to
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/31/14 at 3:24 pm to
Carol Rosenberg ? @carolrosenberg
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US government official tells me Congress was notified about the #Guantanamo prisoner release as it was happening, no 30-day notice...


1:22 PM - 31 May 2014


Carol Rosenberg ? @carolrosenberg
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"This is a case if the commander-in-chief exercising his prerogative to get one of his soldiers back." --US official.


1:25 PM - 31 May 2014


Carol Rosenberg ? @carolrosenberg
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All 5 Afghan prisoners freed from #Guantanamo today were indefinite detainees --forever prisoners.

This post was edited on 5/31/14 at 3:25 pm
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