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re: 5 Taliban exchanged are high risk to attack again - wanted by UN for atrocities
Posted on 5/31/14 at 4:07 pm to Navytiger74
Posted on 5/31/14 at 4:07 pm to Navytiger74
Use your imagination. It's the only thing you seem to use for logic, and you'll figure it out, maybe.
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Posted on 5/31/14 at 4:08 pm to Navytiger74
I'm going to hold off on giving an opinion on the deal itself until i learn a bit more. I'm very happy to have one of our own back. I know his family is thrilled. I know he has been through hell.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 4:10 pm to Alahunter
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Use your imagination. It's the only thing you seem to use for logic, and you'll figure it out, maybe.
Well I don't know who Tojo's 5 right hand men were, but I'd bet they were one damn sight more critical than five Pashtun douchbags who will be tracked until they're buried.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 4:10 pm to Alahunter
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Now Congress can't stop it and it appears Obama admin didn't even give them 30 days notice as they were supposed to.
That part wasn't the point of my post. It was that the Administration has been "shopping" the release of these 5 terrorists for at least two and a half years. It appears they traded the 2011 demand that the Taliban renounce international terrorism for the release of Bergdahl. Those five were going to be released one way or another.
And anyone (not talking about you) who thinks that a country like Qatar will reign these guys in has not been reading international news reports the past several years. Qatar dropped out of the anti-terrorism game after a car bombing in Doha in 2005, in exchange for not being further targeted.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 4:12 pm to Navytiger74
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We traded with Germany, Russia, and N. Vietnam.
And how many of those countries were labeled by the U.S. Government as terrorist organizations? We just broke the unbreakable rule in international politics - we negotiated with terrorists and the terrorists won.
This post was edited on 5/31/14 at 4:13 pm
Posted on 5/31/14 at 4:14 pm to NHTIGER
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And anyone (not talking about you) who thinks that a country like Qatar will reign these guys in has not been reading international news reports the past several years.
Qatar is no worse than our best Sunni allies in the region--save Jordan. Saudis are the worst. And we sell out to them more than anyone else.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 4:15 pm to Navytiger74
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Actually I know CIA is competent.
9/11, 7/7, Iraq, OBL, and Ukraine say otherwise, just to name a few.
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But what do they have to do with the issue in question.
Someone's going to have to keep tabs on these guys before they kill again.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 4:16 pm to TN Bhoy
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Someone's going to have to keep tabs on these guys before they kill again.
So you think we can't keep tabs on five assholes we've held for the better part of a decade?
Posted on 5/31/14 at 4:17 pm to Navytiger74
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So you think we can't keep tabs on five assholes we've held for the better part of a decade?
Yep.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 4:18 pm to Navytiger74
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atar is no worse than our best Sunni allies in the region
qatar is one of the few that continues to support the muslim brotherhood.
This post was edited on 5/31/14 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 5/31/14 at 4:18 pm to RollTide1987
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how many of those countries were labeled by the U.S. Government as terrorist organizations?
Well Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia killed 150x as many people as raghead extremists. If we had such a label back then, we probably would have applied it. I guess we just settled for genocidists, communists, and evil imperialists.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 4:20 pm to C
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qatar is one of the few that continues to supper the muslim brotherhood.
And Saudi money continues to be the primary financier of Islamist extremism in the region and worldwide.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 4:20 pm to Navytiger74
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So you think we can't keep tabs on five assholes we've held for the better part of a decade?
when we place them on their home turf where we have no true allies? i mean are you being serious?
Posted on 5/31/14 at 4:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
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when we place them on their home turf where we have no true allies? i mean are you being serious?
Yes, I'm being serious. We kill people in those countries whenever we see fit. When we don't kill them, it's not a matter of technical inability.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 4:23 pm to Navytiger74
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We kill people in those countries whenever we see fit.
these are pretty top-level guys. the US doesn't just snap its fingers and snatch these people up on the reg
Posted on 5/31/14 at 4:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
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these are pretty top-level guys. the US doesn't just snap its fingers and snatch these people up on the reg
Funny, then, that we got all five in the first place. I guess we can be sure that they're the top five currently being held, right?
Our access will decrease with the drawdown, but these types aren't typically captured by brigade-sized units.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 4:30 pm to Navytiger74
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And Saudi money continues to be the primary financier of Islamist extremism in the region and worldwide.
And even they haven't allowed the Taliban to set up an embassy...
Posted on 5/31/14 at 4:36 pm to C
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And even they haven't allowed the Taliban to set up an embassy...
They don't have an Iranian Embassy either, but the Swiss do. And we negotiate through them. Iran is chief among state sponsors of terrorism (far more egregious than the Taliban, with far more American blood on their hands.) But we deal with the noble Swiss, who didn't even have the dignity to take a stand against the Nazis.
The more you know about history, the less you're able to feign outrage with a straight face.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 4:39 pm to Navytiger74
5 taliban shot would be worth one man.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 4:40 pm to Navytiger74
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the less you're able to feign outrage with a straight face.
I'm not outraged. I'm still trying to figure out the deal. As I said in an earlier post. But i know it's easier for you to support blindly.
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They don't have an Iranian Embassy either, but the Swiss do. And we negotiate through them. Iran is chief among state sponsors of terrorism (far more egregious than the Taliban, with far more American blood on their hands.) But we deal with the noble Swiss, who didn't even have the dignity to take a stand against the Nazis.
Have you spent any time in the middle east? You're just throwing shite against the wall hoping for something to stick.
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