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Cake baker loses appeal... Must bake for all people
Posted on 5/31/14 at 9:40 am
Posted on 5/31/14 at 9:40 am
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Today, Colorado's Civil Rights Commission ruled that Phillips did violate civil rights law by doing so. A judge found the same in December; today's seven-member panel just agreed.
Will he take this to an appeals court?
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"I will stand by my convictions until somebody shuts me down," he told the AP after the ruling. But the Commission says he has to bake for everyone now. Phillips owns the Masterpiece Cakeshop in the Denver suburb of Lakewood and is a self-identified devout Christian.
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Posted on 5/31/14 at 9:43 am to darkhorse
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Cake baker loses appeal... Must bake for all people
fricking ridiculous... A private business should be able to choose who it wants to do business with.
And this is coming from a pro-gay marriage person.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 9:44 am to darkhorse
He MUST bake now?
Well so much for freedom in the pot smokin state
Well so much for freedom in the pot smokin state
Posted on 5/31/14 at 9:45 am to darkhorse
Is there some law to prohibit him from charging say $100 for a cake for a man-woman marriage and $1,000 for a same sex marriage? 
Posted on 5/31/14 at 9:51 am to Homesick Tiger
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Is there some law to prohibit him from charging say $100 for a cake for a man-woman marriage and $1,000 for a same sex marriage?
I'm sure the same judge would find something... If they can force the guy to serve people he doesn't want to, then they can most certainly force him to charge the same amount amongst groups.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 9:51 am to darkhorse
Who was on here it the other day that said Christians don't experience persecution for their beliefs?
Posted on 5/31/14 at 9:53 am to Lsut81
How about the "no shirt, no shoes, no service" policy? Wonder if that can be enforced today?
Posted on 5/31/14 at 9:54 am to tigersaint26
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How about the "no shirt, no shoes, no service" policy? Wonder if that can be enforced today?
Thats a policy for health reasons... Completely different than the no gay cakes policy.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 9:56 am to darkhorse
Interesting take to say the least....
"You cannot refuse to make a profit!"
"You cannot refuse to make a profit!"
Posted on 5/31/14 at 9:56 am to tigersaint26
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How about the "no shirt, no shoes, no service" policy? Wonder if that can be enforced today?
Also, what about the places banning guns.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 9:57 am to darkhorse
Honest question.. How can he be forced? Sometimes places are way too busy at times to take on added work. Can't he just use that excuse?
Posted on 5/31/14 at 10:00 am to Lsut81
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fricking ridiculous... A private business should be able to choose who it wants to do business with.
That was the argument used to have segregated sections of stores and to deny service to black people at hotels and restaurants.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 10:03 am to darkhorse
Freedom of association continues to be assaulted.
If same sex people want to run around and pretend they're married, I'm not going to stand in their way.
I will never personally view them as married however.
Maybe he should offer 'faux wedding cakes' to same sexers, and wedding cakes exclusively to heteros.
They would be the same thing but the order form and the bill would clearly be labeled 'faux wedding cake'. They can't tell him what to name his product.
If same sex people want to run around and pretend they're married, I'm not going to stand in their way.
I will never personally view them as married however.
Maybe he should offer 'faux wedding cakes' to same sexers, and wedding cakes exclusively to heteros.
They would be the same thing but the order form and the bill would clearly be labeled 'faux wedding cake'. They can't tell him what to name his product.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 10:04 am to Ralph_Wiggum
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That was the argument used to have segregated sections of stores and to deny service to black people at hotels and restaurants.
So people didnt want to serve blacks because of their religious beliefs??
Posted on 5/31/14 at 10:07 am to darkhorse
That's probably going to be ugliest wedding cake ever.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 10:19 am to darkhorse
Here is one issue I have if businesses were allowed to pick and choose...
What if society chose to hate a very small minority of people.
Say, people over 6'9" tall.
Refusing to serve those people will not hurt their business at all. And a business owner who chooses to serve them will not get a bunch of extra business... so he doesn't have much to gain.
So now, people over 6'9" theoretically cannot get groceries, food, clothing, etc. if society decides they are the devil.
What if society chose to hate a very small minority of people.
Say, people over 6'9" tall.
Refusing to serve those people will not hurt their business at all. And a business owner who chooses to serve them will not get a bunch of extra business... so he doesn't have much to gain.
So now, people over 6'9" theoretically cannot get groceries, food, clothing, etc. if society decides they are the devil.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 10:25 am to darkhorse
If forced to bake these people a cake I would comply. But I assure you it would be the last cake they ever purchased from me. No I wouldn't harm anyone, but that would be the worst cake they have ever eaten.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 10:27 am to Ponchy Tiger
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that would be the worst cake they have ever eaten.
sorry, I thought it was sugar, but it was salt
Posted on 5/31/14 at 10:30 am to Homesick Tiger
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Is there some law to prohibit him from charging say $100 for a cake for a man-woman marriage and $1,000 for a same sex marriage?
He probably can add $900 because of the extra ingredients required to make it:
Bile and Bitterness.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 10:31 am to Lsut81
quote:Not unlike the Catholic pharmacist who sells the Morning After pill.
fricking ridiculous... A private business should be able to choose who it wants to do business with.
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