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Common Core Math Explained, in Youtube Video
Posted on 5/14/14 at 11:33 am
Posted on 5/14/14 at 11:33 am
Posted on 5/14/14 at 11:42 am to wickowick
What in the hell was that? That is like nothing I have ever seen.
What happens when I do a problem like 2543-2340?
This is retarded.
What happens when I do a problem like 2543-2340?
This is retarded.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 11:44 am to wickowick
But all our students will be equally confused and that's progress.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 11:44 am to wickowick
Instead of "new way" it should be called "another way". Not that one way is better, butthat there are mul tiple ways to get the answer.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 11:47 am to wickowick
I have 2 kids in school, and so far from what I've seen I like Common Core. I get some of the criticism of it because it is different from how we were taught, but I don't think that automatically makes it a bad thing. It's developing some critical thinking which is great.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 11:47 am to wilfont
Common core is retarded and thats the bottom line.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 11:50 am to wickowick
I can't link it from my phone but look up Arkansas mom obliterates common core and watch an even more convoluted method for solving a simple problem
Posted on 5/14/14 at 11:52 am to wickowick
What's up with the video? All I heard was music in the background.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 11:52 am to blackrose890
Posted on 5/14/14 at 11:56 am to The Spleen
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I have 2 kids in school, and so far from what I've seen I like Common Core. I get some of the criticism of it because it is different from how we were taught, but I don't think that automatically makes it a bad thing. It's developing some critical thinking which is great.
Part of the problem is people watch a video like that and actually think it constitutes a valid criticism of Common Core. For a straightforward problem like 32-12, no one is going to work their way through that algorithm.
However, for a child to develop the numerical fluency at a young age to work their way through a problem like 32-17 in a multitude of ways instead of herp-derping subtraction with borrowing over-and-over again...it can be a powerful thing, and honestly is the way people who are actually good at mathematics think about computation anyway.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 12:02 pm to brgfather129
Just because I know the algorithm doesn't mean I will ever use it for something simple like that. 95% of people will never need to understand this, and with emphasis being directed away from science and math except to complicate the method it is a long term negative.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 12:02 pm to wickowick
That example, I think, parallels how most higher-skilled mathematicians process such a problem.
For example, when asked to solve 532 - 274 I think a lot of intelligent mathematicians naturally would break that down into 32 + 200 + 26. That they won't have to after a certain period of time is a product of their success.
26285-15922 is not a rote matter. It's solved by such a deductive process I just described. The fellow in the video would have you believe that all substraction should be rote memorization or done in columns on paper. The 32-12 problem is obviously an easy one, but the important part is teaching the mental process.
For example, when asked to solve 532 - 274 I think a lot of intelligent mathematicians naturally would break that down into 32 + 200 + 26. That they won't have to after a certain period of time is a product of their success.
26285-15922 is not a rote matter. It's solved by such a deductive process I just described. The fellow in the video would have you believe that all substraction should be rote memorization or done in columns on paper. The 32-12 problem is obviously an easy one, but the important part is teaching the mental process.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 12:05 pm to brgfather129
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it can be a powerful thing, and honestly is the way people who are actually good at mathematics think about computation anyway.
100% agreee.
I remember a problem floating around a few weeks ago where the dad wrote a note to the teacher saying he was an electrical engineer and he didn't even understand the problem.
I have an engineering degree as well and regularly topped my high school in math team competitions and national tests.
quote:It just looked that way at first glance. It kinda showed the way my brain goes through the problem.
The problem that was asked wasn't even complicated.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 12:05 pm to brgfather129
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However, for a child to develop the numerical fluency at a young age to work their way through a problem like 32-17 in a multitude of ways instead of herp-derping subtraction with borrowing over-and-over again...
Why is borrowing over-and-over again herp-derping?
Posted on 5/14/14 at 12:07 pm to wickowick
That lady needs to go back to school. Just because she doesn't understand the methodology on how the solution the problem is being taught, doesn't mean it's wrong.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 12:11 pm to GumboPot
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Why is borrowing over-and-over again herp-derping?
It's dumbing down math. We read left to right, so logic would say we should add and subtract left to right, but no we've been taught to add and subtract from right to left. I figured out the fallacy in that around 4th or 5th grade, and scored very highly in math in high school and college.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 12:11 pm to The Spleen
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26285-15922 = ?
For me, it's far easier to see 285 + 10000 + 78 than it is to borrow and carry over numbers from four columns to the left.
I think that's the type of mental process Common Core is trying to teach.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 12:13 pm to wickowick
I'm opposed to common core but this math issue is overblown. We use a homeschool curriculum that uses similar principles because it teaches a better understanding of how to mentally compute math.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 12:13 pm to The Spleen
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That lady needs to go back to school. Just because she doesn't understand the methodology on how the solution the problem is being taught, doesn't mean it's wrong.
You just mad because she's against common core.
Common Core is a boondoggle for Democrat corporate interest in the education industry. Tweak the education system every few years to allow a feww millions new books sold to schools by Democrat donors. Rinse and repeat every few years while the kids remain dumb mostly because they have dumb parents.
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