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What's your Saints draft grade?
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:24 pm
Solid B. Would have been an A if they could have landed one of the better centers in the draft.
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Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:32 pm to Bourre
C+ without seeing them on the field.. Our team physicians should be ecstatic. 1st 2 picks seem like money though.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:38 pm to Bourre
I'm going with a C+
I loved the Cooks pick. I wanted him BADLY and I would have been cool if we paid even more to make sure we got him.
I am somewhat hesitant about the SJB pick. I'm in the (small) crowd that thinks we are set at corner.. I have faith in PRob and White. We spent a 2nd round pick on a guy who likely won't even play this season.. I would have rather reached for a 3rd round LB that was still on the board or traded down for an extra late pick.
I felt like our biggest need besides WR was a LB who can cover.. There is some potential there with Fortt but nothing conrete for this season. I think if we could have come out of this draft with a solid coverage LB (like Mosley) we would field the #1 D this season. Instead we're either going to get gashed across the middle or we're going to have to pull our talented safeties close to the line and sacrifice the turnovers they COULD be getting playing deep.
All of that being said, I like SJB's potential and if he becomes even a viable #2 at his size we will be very dangerous.
Plus, we didn't get a Center. I feel like the team was waiting to see if we got a value center in the draft before picking up Goodwin.. so I think they'll sign him very soon.
I'm VERY excited about our UDFA's though. We got some good, good potential coming in.. if you count them as part of the "draft" class then I would bump us to a B- or B.
I loved the Cooks pick. I wanted him BADLY and I would have been cool if we paid even more to make sure we got him.
I am somewhat hesitant about the SJB pick. I'm in the (small) crowd that thinks we are set at corner.. I have faith in PRob and White. We spent a 2nd round pick on a guy who likely won't even play this season.. I would have rather reached for a 3rd round LB that was still on the board or traded down for an extra late pick.
I felt like our biggest need besides WR was a LB who can cover.. There is some potential there with Fortt but nothing conrete for this season. I think if we could have come out of this draft with a solid coverage LB (like Mosley) we would field the #1 D this season. Instead we're either going to get gashed across the middle or we're going to have to pull our talented safeties close to the line and sacrifice the turnovers they COULD be getting playing deep.
All of that being said, I like SJB's potential and if he becomes even a viable #2 at his size we will be very dangerous.
Plus, we didn't get a Center. I feel like the team was waiting to see if we got a value center in the draft before picking up Goodwin.. so I think they'll sign him very soon.
I'm VERY excited about our UDFA's though. We got some good, good potential coming in.. if you count them as part of the "draft" class then I would bump us to a B- or B.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:49 pm to Rand AlThor
C-
I like the Cooks pick. Not sure we NEEDED to trade the 3rd round pick to upgrade this position based on what was available.
No matter how you slice it, SJB is a corner with two years of experience. This pick has "bust" written all over it.
There are too many injury risks and project players in this group after Cooks. I feel that the Saints could have done a better job picking from the plethora of available healthy players who are established at their positions.
I'm actually close to grading this draft a "D." I really believe this draft will only produce one reliable, quality starter, Cooks.
I like the Cooks pick. Not sure we NEEDED to trade the 3rd round pick to upgrade this position based on what was available.
No matter how you slice it, SJB is a corner with two years of experience. This pick has "bust" written all over it.
There are too many injury risks and project players in this group after Cooks. I feel that the Saints could have done a better job picking from the plethora of available healthy players who are established at their positions.
I'm actually close to grading this draft a "D." I really believe this draft will only produce one reliable, quality starter, Cooks.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:52 pm to Bourre
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Solid B.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:55 pm to Bourre
C+ because that's what Kiper said! 
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:57 pm to Bourre
B. I think there are a lot of boom/bust type of prospects which works given the structure of our team.
Cooks is going to be a great pick and could fill a Randall Cobb type of role. SJB has all the tools to be a Pro Bowl level CB, but he needs coaching. Powell is an interesting pick to me, the raw skills are there that he could be a specialized pass rusher if he can stay healthy.
Cooks is going to be a great pick and could fill a Randall Cobb type of role. SJB has all the tools to be a Pro Bowl level CB, but he needs coaching. Powell is an interesting pick to me, the raw skills are there that he could be a specialized pass rusher if he can stay healthy.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 5:17 pm to Bourre
Solid B.
I agree with the posters above that SJB has a lot of bust potential. If he is in the rotation next year I will be pleased.p
Cooks is a great pick - he seems like a can't miss for our system. We were a player like him away from being unstoppable last year.
I wish the interior OL would have been addressed, but Cooks was worth the 3rd rounder IMO.
The injured players are risk/reward, and in the mid to late rounds that's what you should shoot for.
I agree with the posters above that SJB has a lot of bust potential. If he is in the rotation next year I will be pleased.p
Cooks is a great pick - he seems like a can't miss for our system. We were a player like him away from being unstoppable last year.
I wish the interior OL would have been addressed, but Cooks was worth the 3rd rounder IMO.
The injured players are risk/reward, and in the mid to late rounds that's what you should shoot for.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 5:20 pm to Bourre
C+....I like their draft , would have given them a higher grade but trading up 7 spots and losing a 3 rd round pick doesn't sit we'll with me..
Posted on 5/11/14 at 5:27 pm to Bourre
C+ maybe a B.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 5:30 pm to LawLessTyGer
Teams gave have up a third to move up less spots than that.... I remember one team moving up only 4 spots.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 5:38 pm to gregory6592
I don't compare the saints to "teams"
U can snag quality players in round 3
U can snag quality players in round 3
Posted on 5/11/14 at 6:11 pm to Patrick_Bateman
C++
Posted on 5/11/14 at 6:13 pm to Rand AlThor
Does SJB have some potential at safety if he can't cut it at corner? He has good size.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 6:14 pm to Bourre
C. Liked the first couple of picks. Used the later round picks on a bunch of guys with histories of knee injuries. The Saints seem to send a top 10 amount of guys to the IR every season as it is.
And Payton said they didn't pick up a center in the draft because they didn't want to reach for one when the draft position didn't warrant it; yet they used their 6th round pick on a tackle that no NFL analyst had any information on. I'm still not 100% convinced that Rooks actually exists as a human being.
And Payton said they didn't pick up a center in the draft because they didn't want to reach for one when the draft position didn't warrant it; yet they used their 6th round pick on a tackle that no NFL analyst had any information on. I'm still not 100% convinced that Rooks actually exists as a human being.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 6:35 pm to Bourre
B-
Posted on 5/11/14 at 7:00 pm to Bourre
I said this in the other thread that this is based on projection so it's subject to change, and as it should be higher round picks are more weighted as they have higher expectations.
I gave it B+ with a chance to get an A if all of our late round picks work out and the first two do as well as expected, or a C+(I think) if none of the late picks work out but the first 2 still do.
Payton said they would have had to reach in any given round to get a center, so I applaud them for not doing that.
Best case scenario is that Cooks is a beast, JB becomes the nickel this year and at least a solid starter next year but hopefully on the level with Lewis, Fortt takes over for Hawthorne next year, Powell takes over for Haralson next year, Sunseri takes over the 3rd safety role from Bush in 2 years, and Rooks wins a backup tackle job and becomes a starter in 3-4 years when we part with Strief.
Drafts aren't about this year alone. All of these guys have a role and hopefully they eventually fulfill it.
So I'll give you my actually grade in about 3 years, and a better projection of it after preseason.
I gave it B+ with a chance to get an A if all of our late round picks work out and the first two do as well as expected, or a C+(I think) if none of the late picks work out but the first 2 still do.
Payton said they would have had to reach in any given round to get a center, so I applaud them for not doing that.
Best case scenario is that Cooks is a beast, JB becomes the nickel this year and at least a solid starter next year but hopefully on the level with Lewis, Fortt takes over for Hawthorne next year, Powell takes over for Haralson next year, Sunseri takes over the 3rd safety role from Bush in 2 years, and Rooks wins a backup tackle job and becomes a starter in 3-4 years when we part with Strief.
Drafts aren't about this year alone. All of these guys have a role and hopefully they eventually fulfill it.
So I'll give you my actually grade in about 3 years, and a better projection of it after preseason.
This post was edited on 5/11/14 at 7:02 pm
Posted on 5/11/14 at 7:12 pm to Bourre
Right now I give it a D, but only time will tell. Cooks and powell were the only picks I liked. I didn't like trading a 3rd to move up, but given how the later picks looked I guess its a good thing they got their guy. Really wanted to pick up a starting c in the third.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 7:24 pm to Billy Mays
quote:Yup. You either get those types of guys, or mediocre guys with low upside. Just gotta hope they pan out.
The injured players are risk/reward, and in the mid to late rounds that's what you should shoot for.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 7:30 pm to Rand AlThor
quote:I'm in that crowd that thinks we are set at CB for this season and the next, but this pick was about our long term corner outlook.
I am somewhat hesitant about the SJB pick. I'm in the (small) crowd that thinks we are set at corner.. I have faith in PRob and White. We spent a 2nd round pick on a guy who likely won't even play this season.. I would have rather reached for a 3rd round LB that was still on the board or traded down for an extra late pick.
In 2 years only Lewis would have been left(Robinson is up after this year and White and Bailey the year after). We needed to get someone in, especially with Bailey as a mentor, to get them ready to take over.
Even if we do end up keeping White, I think he projects to a career nickel guy and his skill set is tailor made for that role. I would love to have Lewis, JB(if he works out like I think), and White as our long term guys.
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