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Romneycare's success
Posted on 5/6/14 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 5/6/14 at 3:32 pm
The Atlantic
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Much ink and many, many snide subtweets have been spilled over the question of whether Obamacare’s expansion of health insurance will actually generate health gains. Conservative health wonks have used the idea that “health insurance does not equal healthcare” to denounce the Affordable Care Act’s Medicaid expansion.
But a new study of Massachusetts’ healthcare reform published in the Annals of Internal Medicine provides hope that the expansion of health coverage under Obamacare will, in fact, help people live longer and healthier lives.
quote:
“In the first four years after Massachusetts instituted comprehensive health reform in 2006, mortality in the state decreased by 2.9 percent compared with similar populations in states that didn’t expand health coverage,” Harvard’s School of Public Health, whose Benjamin D. Sommers co-authored the study, said in a statement. “They estimated that Massachusetts’ health reform law, which provided near-universal coverage, has prevented approximately 320 deaths per year—one life saved for each 830 people gaining insurance.”
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In addition to living longer, Massachusetts residents also reported fewer cost-related barriers to care, more outpatient visits, and improvements in self-reported health after the reform was implemented.
This is consistent with a previous study showing better self-reported health in Massachusetts after the expansion of healthcare. And an earlier New England Journal of Medicine study found that other states that expanded Medicaid saw a 6.1 percent reduction in the death rate among adults younger than 65.
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 3:35 pm to a want
quote:FAIL.
RomneyCare’s pioneering health insurance exchange is headed for the scrap heap.
Bay State officials are taking steps this week to junk central parts of their dysfunctional health insurance exchange — the model for President Barack Obama’s health care law — and merge with the federal enrollment site HealthCare.gov.
The decision is part of an expensive plan that would occur alongside a parallel, last-ditch attempt to still build a working state system.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 3:42 pm to CptBengal
quote:
Bay State officials are taking steps this week to junk central parts of their dysfunctional health insurance exchange — the model for President Barack Obama’s health care law — and merge with the federal enrollment site HealthCare.gov.
This was in the politico article. Pat Dollard might not have referenced this part. But that's a different story than the Atlantic article I posted.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 4:01 pm to a want
People have been living longer....wow. Seems like they've said this every year, for the last couple centuries...
Posted on 5/6/14 at 4:10 pm to CptBengal
Your link is about the online system for enrolling in the program, not about its health benefits to the public.
It's YOU who fail because you can't think.
It's YOU who fail because you can't think.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 4:43 pm to CamdenTiger
quote:
People have been living longer....wow. Seems like they've said this every year, for the last couple centuries...
The article explains this. Actually, I think I even provided a quote about it.
quote:
“In the first four years after Massachusetts instituted comprehensive health reform in 2006, mortality in the state decreased by 2.9 percent compared with similar populations in states that didn’t expand health coverage,” Harvard’s School of Public Health, whose Benjamin D. Sommers co-authored the study, said in a statement. “They estimated that Massachusetts’ health reform law, which provided near-universal coverage, has prevented approximately 320 deaths per year—one life saved for each 830 people gaining insurance.”
Such sadness on this board from such seemingly great news.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 4:53 pm to a want
I'm happy for Mass. That's great news.
Now, I don't see how that one state's success is definitive of how the ACA will affect the USA.
It isn't exactly a very good representation of the USA economically or demographically.
Now, I don't see how that one state's success is definitive of how the ACA will affect the USA.
It isn't exactly a very good representation of the USA economically or demographically.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 5:03 pm to a want
I applaud Mass. taking it upon themselves to tackle their healthcare issues and while I'm sure there are some positives, I also believe there to be some negatives.. My main contention is that such laws may work in certain states and I believe that each state should take upon themselves the challenge to work with their citizens in finding the right balance.. I firmly believe that the demographic mix of the US doesn't allow for one size fits all legislation at this level.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 5:18 pm to a want
quote:This is much like Rex's thread the other day. Anything can appear good as long as you only look at half of the equation.
Such sadness on this board from such seemingly great news.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 6:12 pm to a want
State vs Federal.
One is limited in its failure and its range of success.
One is all encompassing in its failure or success.
Which one do you want?
One is limited in its failure and its range of success.
One is all encompassing in its failure or success.
Which one do you want?
Posted on 5/6/14 at 6:12 pm to a want
mass data no giod
oregon data much better
oregon data much better
Posted on 5/6/14 at 6:14 pm to Rex
quote:
Your link is about the online system for enrolling in the program, not about its health benefits to the public.
It's YOU who fail because you can't think.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Costs rising at a faster rate than any time since 1980
Think about that a-hole
Posted on 5/6/14 at 6:20 pm to goatmilker
quote:
State vs Federal.
One is limited in its failure and its range of success.
One is all encompassing in its failure or success.
Which one do you want?
it boggles my mind how people pretend that obamacare is obama's idea. or scope. he stole it from the republicans, and once it was his idea it was a bad idea.
it would be comical if it wasn't so sad.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 6:21 pm to Hawkeye95
quote:
and once it was his idea it was a bad idea.
that's pretty disingenuous.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 6:22 pm to 90proofprofessional
quote:
that's pretty disingenuous.
explain it to me.
eta: wife just summoned me for dinner, i am interested in your opinion.
This post was edited on 5/6/14 at 6:24 pm
Posted on 5/6/14 at 6:23 pm to Hawkeye95
quote:
it would be comical if it wasn't so sad.
This is how I feel, as I watch healthcare burn on the vine, and Hospitals and practices close, and Doctors retiring....We about to reap some great rewards, coming to a family member near you....
Posted on 5/6/14 at 6:44 pm to Hawkeye95
quote:
explain it to me.
the idea died a quiet death with the republicans for a good reason, long before being "stolen" from them.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 6:53 pm to a want
quote:At what cost? If it cost $1 million per life saved was it worth it? Why not spend a few billion more and save even more lives? Weren't those lives worth the money and even more good news? Why should anyone have a luxury item, like cable television, when the cost of that item could have been devoted to saving even one additional life? Why haven't the people of Massachusetts been willing to invest in even more great news?
Such sadness on this board from such seemingly great news.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 6:59 pm to TROLA
quote:This, I think people that believe in a one size fit answer are selfish individuals. 50 different choices and distinct ways is better than one wrong over bearing choice. It should be simple to see that states can help their citizens better than the federal gov. The federal gov should be there to settle disputes and put in some very basic guidelines and protect from discrimination.
applaud Mass. taking it upon themselves to tackle their healthcare issues and while I'm sure there are some positives, I also believe there to be some negatives.. My main contention is that such laws may work in certain states and I believe that each state should take upon themselves the challenge to work with their citizens in finding the right balance.. I firmly believe that the demographic mix of the US doesn't allow for one size fits all legislation at this level.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 7:48 pm to a want
Does Massachusetts have the same demographics and economy as the rest of the country?
This may be well and good for a state but what may work at the state level in a certin state will certainly not work at the national level.
This may be well and good for a state but what may work at the state level in a certin state will certainly not work at the national level.
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