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Let's discuss the American TV model
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:04 pm
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:04 pm
The 22-24 episode seasons that were standard but seem to be being phased out in favor of shorter 10-14 episode seasons. Other that sitcoms and Law & Order (watching it got me thinking about this) I can't think of any 22+ episode shows I watch.
What about the rest of you, does anyone prefer the longer seasons?
Also Person of Interest in the 22+ category.
What about the rest of you, does anyone prefer the longer seasons?
Also Person of Interest in the 22+ category.
This post was edited on 4/30/14 at 11:07 pm
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:08 pm to TIGERSTORM
Hollywood writers suck balls these days and can't produce the quality it would take to make a 22 episode season anymore.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:20 pm to beebefootballfan
Is it that writers now can't produce a show under that model or could they never? I would have to think all shows that run 20+ for more than 3 years have to have a ton of filler episodes. Also that model must have lead to the boom in procedural type shows because it's a lot easier to have a case of the week than have to develop characters for that many episodes for multiple seasons.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:28 pm to TIGERSTORM
What is the deal with most dramas either involving cops or doctors?
Posted on 5/1/14 at 12:01 am to TIGERSTORM
The british model is superior.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 12:03 am to TIGERSTORM
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I can't think of any 22+ episode shows I watch.
Grimm is the only one I watch that I can think of.
eta: I also watch Supernatural which is 20+ episodes.
This post was edited on 5/1/14 at 12:06 am
Posted on 5/1/14 at 12:05 am to TIGERSTORM
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boom in procedural type shows because it's a lot easier to have a case of the week than have to develop characters for that many episodes for multiple seasons.
Very few have pulled it off that had a larger background arc, X-files in my mind is the gold standard of procedural mixed with episodic that did 20+ episode seasons for multiple years.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 12:07 am to beebefootballfan
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can't produce the quality it would take to make a 22 episode season anymore.
That's probably true, it's gotta be easier to have a strong, tighter story over twelve episodes vs. 22, but it's also probably cheaper to pay actors and crew for a lesser amount too.
Eta...don't have to spread a budget as thin either.
This post was edited on 5/1/14 at 12:09 am
Posted on 5/1/14 at 12:07 am to TIGERSTORM
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does anyone prefer the longer seasons?
not really, even though there are a lot of shows I watch that I wish had more episodes such as GoT and BWE. I would have to say that in my mind 12-14 episodes a season is perfect.
This post was edited on 5/1/14 at 12:08 am
Posted on 5/1/14 at 12:11 am to DanglingFury
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but it's also probably cheaper to pay actors and crew for a lesser amount too.
But for the big networks and the cable channels that are invested in original programming (AMC, FX, HBO) it means they basically have 2 even 3 seasons to fill, they have to have shows for the fall and the winter/spring shows. It's good for show developers because more shows get a shot and IMO it's good for the viewer because without these smaller seasons I doubt we ever get a show like Hannibal or Sleepy Hollow on one of the major networks.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 8:24 am to BOSCEAUX
If there were any legit comedies left, they're the only ones that should consist of 22-24 episodes each season.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 8:47 am to TIGERSTORM
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What about the rest of you, does anyone prefer the longer seasons?
I'll take quality over quantity. See: HBO, BBC, A&E, etc.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:28 am to TIGERSTORM
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The 22-24 episode seasons that were standard but seem to be being phased out in favor of shorter 10-14 episode seasons.
That's because a lot of programs are now hour long and most now also have greater production value.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:37 am to BOSCEAUX
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I doubt we ever get a show like Hannibal or Sleepy Hollow on one of the major networks.
Doesn't Hannibal come on NBC?
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:39 am to TIGERSTORM
I prefer longer seasons because I get more episodes of the shows that I like. But if the option is 22 hit or miss episodes or 13 great episodes, I'll take the shorter season.
ETA: Only longer series show that I can think of at the moment that I watch is Clone Wars.
ETA: Only longer series show that I can think of at the moment that I watch is Clone Wars.
This post was edited on 5/1/14 at 10:43 am
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:41 am to TIGERSTORM
I agree this should be the new way to go. Having said that, I don't watch 95% of the shows on TV so it probably wouldn't affect me so much. I do find that most of the shows I watch are the 10-15 show per season variety.
Posted on 5/4/14 at 5:29 pm to TIGERSTORM
24 episodes is good for comedies but dramas definitely need to be 10-14 to cut on the filler episodes. Having said that, I remember being pissed when the price for the strike shortened season 4 of Lost cost the same as the 24 episode season 1. I'd have a hard time shelling $40 for 8 episodes of True Detective too.
This post was edited on 5/4/14 at 5:33 pm
Posted on 5/4/14 at 8:31 pm to JabarkusRussell
Fringe is 22+ and did fine
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