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St George proponents think they'll make the November ballot
Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:39 pm
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"If we continue the pace we're on, it looks like we will make it," says Norman Browning, who is leading the movement. "Can I guarantee it? No. But are we on pace for it? Yes."
Browning and fellow organizer Lionel Rainey spoke on a variety of St. George-related issues earlier today at the monthly meeting of the East Baton Rouge Parish Chamber of Commerce. Browning says volunteers are collecting about 500 signatures per week, and that the movement has gained steam since state lawmakers filed several bills targeting the incorporation effort.
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 4:49 pm to 90proofprofessional
It is encouraging to see that the SG people haven't given up and are getting out and about pushing their plan.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 5:18 pm to 90proofprofessional
Thought they were supposed to be on the last one.
Weren't they on pace for that as well?
Weren't they on pace for that as well?
Posted on 4/22/14 at 5:28 pm to 90proofprofessional
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St George proponents think they'll make the November ballot
Good for them. Put it up for a vote and let the people decide one way or the other.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 5:58 pm to constant cough
They have no idea how they are gonna pay for their own city if the mall chooses to annex into BR. With so much uncertainty, I don't know how anyone living there could support that right now.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 5:59 pm to magildachunks
I don't think I ever saw that.
They just began the drive in September.
They just began the drive in September.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 6:03 pm to doubleb
I've heard they've got the numbers...but if they announce it people stop signing. They want as many signatures as possible once its time to say "we got x number signatures". Another thing, they didn't hold a petition drive last wknd...if it was that tight you don't skip an opportunity to get them.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 6:05 pm to 90proofprofessional
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movement has gained steam since state lawmakers filed several bills targeting the incorporation effort.
I don't give a shite whether they win or not but the above quoted along with the action of the leaders in BR make me hope they get it and shite hits the fan.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 6:06 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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They have no idea how they are gonna pay for their own city if the mall chooses to annex into BR
Aren't there other cities without the Mall?
How is Central doing? I have no idea.
Also, this does not have to mean hatred and never dealing with one another. Hell, Most people don't really pay attention what is BR city limits, unincorporated, or Prairieville, etc. I don't pay much attention to the "city" I am in in my area. I go to the store, restaurant, etc that I want to go to and just live my life.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 6:10 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
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Aren't there other cities without the Mall?
Right, and it's not like other new malls can't be built.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 6:18 pm to 90proofprofessional
Rumor has it they don't need 18k anyway. 18k included 25% of districts where st.George lines didn't encompass the whole district. If thats the case, they only need 25% of the portions of the district in st.George. That could lower the number of required signatures by thousands.....
Posted on 4/22/14 at 6:20 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
They based their entire budget with the Mall of La being the backbone of their sales tax revenue. If they don't have that, they will have to raise taxes significantly on the residents there. They aren't telling people that.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 6:22 pm to Sprocket46
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Rumor has it they don't need 18k anyway. 18k included 25% of districts where st.George lines didn't encompass the whole district. If thats the case, they only need 25% of the portions of the district in st.George. That could lower the number of required signatures by thousands.....
Also, if all the land between the city limits and the Mall of La is annexed, that will further reduce the number they need.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 6:24 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Quote ....They have no idea how they are gonna pay for their own city if the mall chooses to annex into BR. With so much uncertainty, I don't know how anyone living there could support that right now. Quote
It's all snout the schools and now it's about changing the status quo.
If they do nothing the public school system in the parish doesn't fill their needs nor is it responsive to their wishes. If they form their own city, they hope to change all that.
The loss of the Mall would certainly hurt their finances, but it wouldn't kill their hopes for an ISD and a better school system.
It's also apparent that the people running city hall care little about solving their education problems and their goals hardly include helping the SG area of the parish.
It's all snout the schools and now it's about changing the status quo.
If they do nothing the public school system in the parish doesn't fill their needs nor is it responsive to their wishes. If they form their own city, they hope to change all that.
The loss of the Mall would certainly hurt their finances, but it wouldn't kill their hopes for an ISD and a better school system.
It's also apparent that the people running city hall care little about solving their education problems and their goals hardly include helping the SG area of the parish.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 6:27 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Can they annex that property unilaterally?
I know they would love to do that, and are certainly trying, but is it legal?
I know they would love to do that, and are certainly trying, but is it legal?
Posted on 4/22/14 at 6:28 pm to doubleb
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It's all snout the schools and now it's about changing the status quo.
If they do nothing the public school system in the parish doesn't fill their needs nor is it responsive to their wishes. If they form their own city, they hope to change all that.
The loss of the Mall would certainly hurt their finances, but it wouldn't kill their hopes for an ISD and a better school system.
It's also apparent that the people running city hall care little about solving their education problems and their goals hardly include helping the SG area of the parish.
There's a bill currently going through the State Legislature that would totally overhaul the way the EBR School System is run. The leaders of St. George were asked about that and they basically said 'that's a good bill, but we want our own smaller school district'.
If that's what they want, then fine. But don't act as if there is no effort to fix EBR. Those supporting this have no idea how much their taxes are going to increase. It is reckless and irresponsible to move forward with this with so much unknown.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 6:29 pm to doubleb
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Can they annex that property unilaterally?
I know they would love to do that, and are certainly trying, but is it legal?
Under special circumstance, the law does allow for major businesses to be annexed, as well as the surrounding area, if I'm not mistaken. The businesses have to request it though I believe, it can't be forcibly taken.
This post was edited on 4/22/14 at 6:31 pm
Posted on 4/22/14 at 7:36 pm to Mickey Goldmill
They have to be "on the border" to request annexation(Costco and Celtic were). This is where it gets tricky for Kip and his cronies.....the MOLA is not on the border of incorporated BR. That means all of the property between the mall and BR proper would first have to be annexed. They can try, but it isn't cut and dry, and IMHO the MOLA owners aren't going to voluntarily raise taxes on themselves. If anything, they would wait for St. George to incorporate, and then have a tax bidding war with both entities. Again, assuming the property between them could even first be annexed.
This post was edited on 4/22/14 at 7:37 pm
Posted on 4/22/14 at 7:41 pm to Mickey Goldmill
The reason it's unknown is the city is moving to annex SG properties and the legislature is trying to make a deadline of July.
If the SG folks wait then they are screwed if this moratorium passes.
If the SG folks wait then they are screwed if this moratorium passes.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 7:56 pm to doubleb
The moratorium has already been amended not to affect the current petition drive...and it hasn't even been to the Senate floor, just out of committee
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