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re: St George proponents think they'll make the November ballot
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:05 pm to Dorothy
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:05 pm to Dorothy
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Does anyone know if annexation of an already incorporated area (such as a newly formed City of St. George) would be different than just annexation of an unincorporated area? I don't remember reading anything about it, and I wonder if it's harder to leave (or take land from, depending on your perspective) another incorporated city.
Is that even legally possible? Wouldn't that be the equivalent of seceding?
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:28 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Wrong
Buses roll into areas that aren't paying the recently passed tax.
Consequently businesses that do not pay the additional tax as well as others outside the tax district benefit .
Buses roll into areas that aren't paying the recently passed tax.
Consequently businesses that do not pay the additional tax as well as others outside the tax district benefit .
This post was edited on 4/22/14 at 9:31 pm
Posted on 4/22/14 at 10:07 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Those supporting this have no idea how much their taxes are going to increase. It is reckless and irresponsible to move forward with this with so much unknown.
That is insane.
This is simply a movement to get a vote. I trust St. George residents to make a quality decision based on quality information before voting to incorporate.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 10:16 pm to doubleb
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Wrong
Buses roll into areas that aren't paying the recently passed tax.
Consequently businesses that do not pay the additional tax as well as others outside the tax district benefit .
No, I'm actually not wrong. There are limited bus services in the areas that did not pass the recent tax. They still contribute but not as much as those who just passed the recent bond proposal so they get more limited services.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 10:17 pm to moneyg
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That is insane.
This is simply a movement to get a vote. I trust St. George residents to make a quality decision based on quality information before voting to incorporate.
I meant it would be reckless and irresponsible for the St. George voters to approve incorporation without having a clue what the financial consequences are. If they voted yes today, that would be the case.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 10:20 pm to Mickey Goldmill
I have a prediction. If SG happens...the Mall of LA will go to complete crap over the next decade
Posted on 4/22/14 at 10:22 pm to theunknownknight
Good thing cortana stands ready....hah. all malls have a lifespan.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 10:23 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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I meant it would be reckless and irresponsible for the St. George voters to approve incorporation without having a clue what the financial consequences are. If they voted yes today, that would be the case.
That's a strange concern of yours. I don't feel the need to save St. George from themselves. I think they are quite capable of making a decision that is in their best interest.
It's nice that you are so concerned for them though.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 10:26 pm to Sprocket46
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Good thing cortana stands ready....hah. all malls have a lifespan.
Exactly. So why the big hang up over the mall? You can bet big money will be building one in SG soon if SG happens.
The mall "siding" with BR may end up being a really stupid mistake.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 10:27 pm to moneyg
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That's a strange concern of yours. I don't feel the need to save St. George from themselves. I think they are quite capable of making a decision that is in their best interest.
It's nice that you are so concerned for them though.
The people living there are a 10 minute drive from the heart of Baton Rouge. What happens there impacts the entire area. And my concern is that the leaders of this movement aren't being fully honest or forthright about the tax ramifications of incorporation.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 10:31 pm to theunknownknight
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Exactly. So why the big hang up over the mall? You can bet big money will be building one in SG soon if SG happens.
The mall "siding" with BR may end up being a really stupid mistake.
What financial incentive does a private investing firm have to build a huge mall in the St. George area? The Mall of La is right there next to it, Towne Center, Perkins Rowe, Tanger in Gonzalez.
There's no way a large scale mall is gonna be built in the St. George area in the foreseeable future even if they incorporate.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 10:31 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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The people living there are a 10 minute drive from the heart of Baton Rouge. What happens there impacts the entire area. And my concern is that the leaders of this movement aren't being fully honest or forthright about the tax ramifications of incorporation.
Were you this concerned all those times the BR government withheld the truth in the past? Or does your issue only exist with SG?
Posted on 4/22/14 at 10:34 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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There's no way a large scale mall is gonna be built in the St. George area in the foreseeable future even if they incorporate.
No way? NO way at all?
If SG happens, the MoL will suffer. SG is a very large area with a lot of money. People were saying the same thing before they built the MoL, the Rave, every walmart on every corner.
There are all kinds of different malls.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 10:35 pm to theunknownknight
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Were you this concerned all those times the BR government withheld the truth in the past? Or does your issue only exist with SG?
How am I supposed to even answer that? I want what is best for the entire parish because whether people want to believe it or not, each fragmented piece directly impacts the other.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 10:36 pm to theunknownknight
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If SG happens, the MoL will suffer. SG is a very large area with a lot of money. People were saying the same thing before they built the MoL, the Rave, every walmart on every corner.
There are all kinds of different malls.
They may have some developments but nothing near the scale of the Mall of Louisiana. There's just not enough people in the area to support it. You act as if all the St. George people will suddenly stop coming into the city limits of Baton Rouge lol
This post was edited on 4/22/14 at 10:37 pm
Posted on 4/22/14 at 10:37 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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How am I supposed to even answer that? I want what is best for the entire parish because whether people want to believe it or not, each fragmented piece directly impacts the other.
What's best for the parish isn't going to happen: a complete overhaul of EBR government.
So what's the next best: the status quo?
It's either that or try something radically different.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 10:39 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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The people living there are a 10 minute drive from the heart of Baton Rouge.
So what? There are many areas within 10 miles of the heart of Baton Rouge besides St. George that are outside of the city limits and/or even outside of the parish.
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What happens there impacts the entire area. And my concern is that the leaders of this movement aren't being fully honest or forthright about the tax ramifications of incorporation.
The St. George area is unincorporated area. St. George residents have the right to determine that they want to incorporate...even at the expense of incorporated Baton Rouge.
This post was edited on 4/22/14 at 10:42 pm
Posted on 4/22/14 at 10:39 pm to theunknownknight
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What's best for the parish isn't going to happen: a complete overhaul of EBR government.
So what's the next best: the status quo?
It's either that or try something radically different.
I agree that with all the separate municipalities, the current form of consolidated government in EBR does not make sense anymore. There are more options that that and status quo though. As is, Baton Rouge school have improved a great deal over the past few years and we all know the business community is thriving.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 10:40 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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They may have some developments but nothing near the scale of the Mall of Louisiana. There's just not enough people in the area to support it. You act as if all the St. George people will suddenly stop coming into the city limits of Baton Rouge lol
When the tax money from SG stops flowing in to BR who's going to pay all those cops working details around the MoL? The surrounding updates to the infrastructure? Definitely not SG.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 10:41 pm to moneyg
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The St. George is unincorporated area. St. George residents have the right to determine that they want to incorporate...even at the expense of incorporated Baton Rouge.
Never said otherwise. I suggested that it would be reckless to do so without proper knowledge of the ramifications, but its still their right.
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