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TD Mechanics, Please Diagnose My Problem

Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:36 am
Posted by diablo blanco
Oakdale, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
1080 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:36 am
2005 Saturn Vue
Two wheel drive
2.2 L 4-Cylinder Engine
160,000 miles

Engine has a rough idle and misses very notably under acceleration. Electric cooling fan comes on at a high speed within 30 seconds of cranking engine. Check engine light is illuminated. Autozone got no codes on their scanner.

I have:
Changed the spark plugs
Changed the thermostat
Added some Lucas Fuel Treatment
No change after any of these procedures.

My next step is to change the ICM and or the coil pack.

Any suggestions?
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32021 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:37 am to
sounds alot like a coil.. or sensor
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65045 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:51 am to
It does sound like a coil. Pulling each coil should let you know if one is bad. Pull one by one.
Posted by DonChowder
Sonoma County
Member since Dec 2012
9249 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:52 am to
quote:

TD Mechanics, Please Diagnose My Problem
quote:

2005 Saturn Vue
with
160,000 miles
...done.




























You may want to check your engine temp sensor.
Posted by Jblac15
Member since Mar 2011
687 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:52 am to
Quit throwing parts at it.

A quick google search of each individual code will be the most beneficial.
Posted by Trout Bandit
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2012
13266 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:53 am to
quote:

2005 Saturn Vue
Two wheel drive
2.2 L 4-Cylinder Engine
160,000 miles


There's your problem. So much fail in those first 3 lines.
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
13385 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:10 am to
May want to make sure your car wasn't included in the massive ignition switch recall while you're at it.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16581 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:13 am to
Those numbnuts probably hooked up the wrong type of code reader. Take it somewhere else to get that coffee pulled before you throw money at the wrong thing.
Posted by doublecutter
Hear & Their
Member since Oct 2003
6586 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 10:49 am to
Fuel filter
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:49 pm to
quote:

Electric cooling fan comes on at a high speed within 30 seconds of cranking engine


Since you mentioned this I'm assuming it's unusual.

How mechanically inclined are you? You can usually check sensors with an ohm meter or volt meter by finding what they should read on the internets. Sounds like a gremlin somewhere. If you already have a meter checking sensors is free. You can also rent a fuel pressure gauge for free from autozone to check your fuel pump. You can find the specs for what most of that stuff should be on the net.
Posted by Nascar Fan
Columbia La.
Member since Jul 2011
18574 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:00 pm to
Go get you a Prius
Posted by ThaTigerDon
You cant see me
Member since Jun 2009
649 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:31 pm to
Ive got one of these did the same thing. Took it to Gerry Lane they did a fuel system cleaning. runs fine now. Carbon buildup is very common in the vues. Cost about 200.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:42 pm to
Fan and CEL came on? That's pretty damn weird for a fuel system problem.

OP, I don't see why AutoZone couldn't pick up the code. Was the CEL on when they scanned it? It should be just your standard OBD2
Posted by diablo blanco
Oakdale, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
1080 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 4:36 pm to
Went to another parts store and the code there read misfire on cylinder four.
Since I had already changed the plugs, I bought a coil pack and changed that out.

It did the trick!

Thanks for all your help.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 4:39 pm to


They must've not set the reader up correctly at AutoZone
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65045 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 4:54 pm to
quote:

Went to another parts store and the code there read misfire on cylinder four.
Since I had already changed the plugs, I bought a coil pack and changed that out.

It did the trick!


Can we get some props for OleYeller and Broke?
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 4:57 pm to
quote:

Please Diagnose My Problem


quote:

Saturn


Found it.
Posted by diablo blanco
Oakdale, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
1080 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 5:20 pm to
Ole Yeller and Broke must be some sort of intrawebz savants!

To diagnose my problem from my meager description is truly amazing.

Thanks!
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