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Help from contractors or anyone else
Posted on 4/10/14 at 7:39 pm
Posted on 4/10/14 at 7:39 pm
Im putting up a fence around my backyard and after hitting a water pipe in a part of my yard that should not have a water pipe, i decided to call 811. The water pipe issue was simple enough to resolve with my repair skills. I still dont know where the pipe goes however.
Anyway. After dialing 811 a the utilities should come out and mark their stuff. I got home today and found this.
Any idea what this means? This is the only marks on the property.
Anyway. After dialing 811 a the utilities should come out and mark their stuff. I got home today and found this.
Any idea what this means? This is the only marks on the property.
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 7:40 pm to Jibbajabba
No underground phone lines that belong to ATT are on your property.
ETA: utilities companies like gas and water are only responsible for their lines up to the meter. The meter to your house is your responsibility and they will not mark it. Sometimes if the meter is at your property line, they'll mark it as "PL" or "PL set".
Orange is communication, red is electric, green is sewer, blue is water, yellow is gas.
ETA: utilities companies like gas and water are only responsible for their lines up to the meter. The meter to your house is your responsibility and they will not mark it. Sometimes if the meter is at your property line, they'll mark it as "PL" or "PL set".
Orange is communication, red is electric, green is sewer, blue is water, yellow is gas.
This post was edited on 4/10/14 at 7:45 pm
Posted on 4/10/14 at 7:42 pm to upgrayedd
What he said
Posted on 4/10/14 at 7:44 pm to stout
Orange paint is for phone and cable lines, red paint is electrical lines, green is sewage, blue is fresh water and yeller is gas.
Posted on 4/10/14 at 7:49 pm to soccerfüt
You have to wait for all of them to come out. Each guy will only mark this own utility. I would wait for the gas and electricity before you start again.
Posted on 4/10/14 at 7:54 pm to Jibbajabba
Should have made a one call before digging. The water pipe, was it pressurized? If not, it wasn't water but a sewer pipe. Also, how old is the property? You might have an old septic tank.
Posted on 4/10/14 at 8:29 pm to NYNolaguy1
My neighbor said that he thinks there used to be a small trailer in the backyard. The property is from the early 70s. The waterline was for sure a waterline. It was 1inch schedule 40 pvc. What bothers me is whether there is a gas line back there. How do i safely dig? Also, someone mentioned that they only mark up to the meter. Then what is the point of calling? My meters are only a couple of feet from the road.
Posted on 4/10/14 at 8:49 pm to Jibbajabba
The utility companies have no idea where the original contractor put the original services. It is up to the homeowner to know where there pipes are. Most don't.
Usually a plumber just takes the shortest path to the house for water and sewer but you never really know for sure.
water should be on one side of the house, sewer on the other. And don't expect the cable company to mark at all. It's cheaper for them to fix the damage than send someone out and mark all the requests.
Usually a plumber just takes the shortest path to the house for water and sewer but you never really know for sure.
water should be on one side of the house, sewer on the other. And don't expect the cable company to mark at all. It's cheaper for them to fix the damage than send someone out and mark all the requests.
Posted on 4/10/14 at 9:04 pm to Jibbajabba
Call before you dig.
Posted on 4/10/14 at 9:22 pm to Jibbajabba
I used LA ONE CALL about a month ago for work I'm actually going to do this weekend. It seemed like every utility had their own contracted guys to come out and locate. They did not make the "call 48 hours before digging" but completed it in about 4 days. I was actually home when the last one showed up... a contractor for cable. I asked him if I could 20 question him and he actually enjoyed the chat. He went back over all the other utilities and gave me depths which was extremely helpful. My power was 6' below the surface while telephone was 5-7" below.
They don't and can't locate water past the meter. They also can not locate sewer.
The gas company (Entergy Gas) actually sent me an email saying I had no gas lines and was reported back to LA ONE CALL. Here's their response and a number you might want to try:
FWIW, this is the Entergy Electric response:
I'll be doing an exploratory by hand/shovel and once I'm sure I'm clear of my sewer and water, I'll bring in an excavator.
They don't and can't locate water past the meter. They also can not locate sewer.
The gas company (Entergy Gas) actually sent me an email saying I had no gas lines and was reported back to LA ONE CALL. Here's their response and a number you might want to try:
quote:
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Ticket :
Member : BR_ENTERGY_GAS [ Entergy Gas Only - Wait for Entergy Electric Respo ]
Place : BATON ROUGE Address :
Site Status: NO CONFLICT Markings: NONE
Message : No Entergy Gas facilities are present in the area requested to be marked.
Notes :
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If there are any questions regarding this transmission or if you arrive at
the site and have a question about the work site, please call 225-354-3132
FWIW, this is the Entergy Electric response:
quote:
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Ticket :
Member : BR_ENTERGY_ELECTRIC [ Entergy Electric Only - Wait for Entergy Gas Respo ]
Place : BATON ROUGE Address :
Site Status: CONFLICT Markings: PAINTED
Message : Entergy facilities have been marked. If you feel there are additional Entergy electric facilities in the dig area please call number on ticket.
Notes : Ticket completed by USIC
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If there are any questions regarding this transmission or if you arrive at
the site and have a question about the work site, please call 504-365-2924
I'll be doing an exploratory by hand/shovel and once I'm sure I'm clear of my sewer and water, I'll bring in an excavator.
Posted on 4/10/14 at 9:29 pm to AutoYes_Clown
Power lines are supposed to be way deep. The six foot depth is not unusual, code was four feet in one local municipality. Residential cable and phone are nuisances if you cut them they are easily repaired. Sewer and fresh water less so; but gas and electricity go BOOM! and can end in funeral(s).
Posted on 4/10/14 at 9:30 pm to AutoYes_Clown
quote:
I used LA ONE CALL about a month ago for work I'm actually going to do this weekend.
FWIW, I don't know louisiana law specifically, but I doubt that marks are good for a month...you may have to call in new locates to be legal...
Posted on 4/10/14 at 9:45 pm to Spankum
quote:
FWIW, I don't know louisiana law specifically, but I doubt that marks are good for a month...you may have to call in new locates to be legal...
LA ONE CALL is 20 days for expiration. I'll be committing two violations this weekend... expired inspection sticker and expired "intent to excavate" ticket. God help my dog.
But really, I'm not excavating near utilities except being near my sewer. Still though, I'm hand exploring before bringing in excavators.
Posted on 4/10/14 at 9:56 pm to AutoYes_Clown
there is not really much of a penalty involved, but if you break a utility without valiv locates, they will bill the shite out of you for repairs....
if you had locates before, you likely know where everything is, so just be damn careful...
if you had locates before, you likely know where everything is, so just be damn careful...
Posted on 4/10/14 at 11:32 pm to Spankum
I'll ask one more question.
I grew up in the country and never had gas utilities. I would think that gas lines are metal correct?
I'm using shovel/PhDs only so I shouldn't break a gas line on accident. Is that logic/info correct?
I grew up in the country and never had gas utilities. I would think that gas lines are metal correct?
I'm using shovel/PhDs only so I shouldn't break a gas line on accident. Is that logic/info correct?
Posted on 4/10/14 at 11:37 pm to Jibbajabba
One of the more informative threads on the OT in sometime
Actually learned a few things
Actually learned a few things
Posted on 4/11/14 at 12:14 am to Jibbajabba
quote:
I grew up in the country and never had gas utilities. I would think that gas lines are metal correct? I'm using shovel/PhDs only so I shouldn't break a gas line on accident. Is that logic/info correct?
Depends on the age of the house. Most newer homes have poly lines with tracer wires attached so someone can "hook on" to the wire and trace it by sending a current through it. Many older homes have steel lines unless, of course, it has been retro fitted.
My advice would be to use a sharp shooter style shovel in the areas where you think there may be a gas line or any other utility and go slow. Gas lines use pretty heavy duty poly so I don't think you'll breach it easily but it's always better to be on the safe side.
Posted on 4/11/14 at 2:03 am to AutoYes_Clown
One call a-hole marked my gas line 6ft away from where it actually was. Sho nuff, I hit it with a post hole digger. Got lucky though because I felt it hit, and the spiral went on top and bottom of the pipe,but didn't bust it
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