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The 20th largest country in the world
Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:48 am
Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:48 am
Medicaid USA
Keep in mind, this is not Medicare (old people) this is Medicaid (welfare). Larger than UK, France, Italy.
Keep in mind, this is not Medicare (old people) this is Medicaid (welfare). Larger than UK, France, Italy.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:54 am to Zach
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Medicaid USA
Obamanation.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:57 am to navy
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Obamanation.
AKA abomination
Posted on 4/8/14 at 12:42 pm to Zach
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Keep in mind, this is not Medicare (old people) this is Medicaid (welfare).
No.
You keep in mind that over 70% of Medicaid is paid out to the elderly & not those poor stereotypical Welfare recipients the Right have made a boogeyman of( Especially Nursing home residents after Medicare payments ends).
Although they are 25% of the recipients the Elderly cost nearly 75% of the Medicaid program.
The unfortunate residents of St Ritas Nursing home who drowned , in St. Bernard Parish ,are more 'faces' of Medicaid than the stereotypical one those on the Far Right would like to paint(poor minorities).
Easier to villainize/steretype poor minorities than the Elderly pushed off into Nursing homes.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 12:49 pm to sugar71
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No.
Yes. Medicaid is welfare. The poor don't pay into it because they don't work. When the poor get old it's still welfare.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 12:52 pm to sugar71
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You keep in mind that over 70% of Medicaid is paid out to the elderly & not those poor stereotypical Welfare recipients the Right have made a boogeyman of( Especially Nursing home residents after Medicare payments ends).
Using MSNBC soundbytes isn't gonna cut it.
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In a recent MSNBC interview, Sen. Sherrod Brown, D-Ohio, noted that the elderly account for a modest percentage of Medicaid beneficiaries but a large share of costs paid by the program.
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In the midst of a television interview, Brown erred in recounting Medicaid’s statistics, oversimplifying figures on both enrollment and costs. In reality, elderly beneficiaries by themselves account for nowhere close to the two-thirds of Medicaid’s costs that Brown suggested
Politi Fact - we changed the name for the rating to Mostly False.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 4:29 pm to Zach
The problem is the system, everything about it.
It's not just the lazy good for nothing welfare recipients.
It's not just the lazy good for nothing welfare recipients.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 4:49 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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The problem is the system, everything about it.
If by system you mean government, then yes you are 100% correct.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 4:58 pm to Stingray
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If by system you mean government, then yes you are 100% correct.
Sort of, yeah. They enable all of the problems.
But the entire medical industry is out of whack.
Just about everything about it is wrong.
Not to mention how drastically incorrect our food industry is, which contributes greatly to our health issues.
The insurance industry is totally incorrect.
But yeah, sit here and point your finger at the poor people for accepting welfare.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 5:01 pm to Sleeping Tiger
whats out of whack?
whats incorrect?
what causes them to be whack and incorrect?
whats incorrect?
what causes them to be whack and incorrect?
This post was edited on 4/8/14 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 4/8/14 at 5:18 pm to Tiguar
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whats out of whack?
whats incorrect?
what causes them to be whack and incorrect?
What is out of whack and incorrect about the medical and insurance industry?
Pretty much everything.
The dynamics of it all are wrong. Before anyone ever heard of the term Obamacare it was evident the industry needed an overhaul.
This is an essay (at least) worth of information to share, it covers so many things. I know it's, like, um, like, you know, my responsibility to back up something I say. But at the same time people need to be responsible citizens, if you're not in tune with things it's your fault. It would be nice if secondary level conversations could develop on these types of boards, but instead time is wasted over things that should be more well known and understood.
The way insurance works is totally wrong. The way it is in the medical industry is equivalent to having your car insurance cover your gas.
The doctor-Rx company relationship is unethical. The fact that holistic and natural remedies are totally irrelevant inside hospital walls is a serious issue.
It's almost dumb to list one or even ten things because this runs so deep.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 5:48 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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But the entire medical industry is out of whack.
What do you suggest to get our 'medical industry' out of 'whack?'
Posted on 4/8/14 at 5:49 pm to Zach
I believe the goal is to get it IN whack. It's currently out of whack, yes?
Posted on 4/8/14 at 5:54 pm to Zach
It would be more efficient if we just went to single payer but saying that is basically blasphemy on this board so you know. rah rah free market.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 5:56 pm to Zach
where would Medicaid spending rank in terms of GDP? that seems much more interesting
*ETA: i wonder where medicaid recipient would rank PER CAPITA in GDP
*ETA: i wonder where medicaid recipient would rank PER CAPITA in GDP
This post was edited on 4/8/14 at 5:59 pm
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