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Looking at purchasing first boat and need some advice

Posted on 4/3/14 at 9:27 am
Posted by mandevilletiger34
Member since Dec 2010
863 posts
Posted on 4/3/14 at 9:27 am
always grew up with outboards and was told never to get an inboard. does this still hold true?

looking for a good used family boat to start teaching the kids how to ski..looking in the 2002-2005 year range

looking at a Larson and a Bayliner at boat city in Hammond. prices seem a bit high, any negotiating tactics when it comes to boats?
Posted by TexasTiger01
Lake Houston
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 4/3/14 at 9:30 am to
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always grew up with outboards and was told never to get an inboard. does this still hold true?

Yes, if you work on it yourself. If your going to pay someone to work on it, it really doesn't matter.
Posted by MrCoachKlein
Member since Sep 2010
10302 posts
Posted on 4/3/14 at 9:30 am to
Pretty sure they make a lot of solid inboards these days
Posted by 17theBears
Member since Apr 2012
6982 posts
Posted on 4/3/14 at 9:32 am to
quote:

always grew up with outboards and was told never to get an inboard. does this still hold true?



I just got rid of a Moomba Outback (inboard) that I had for three years and never had a problem with it.

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looking for a good used family boat to start teaching the kids how to ski..looking in the 2002-2005 year range



I'd look into a VIP. You can usually get those somewhat cheap and that may suit your needs.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 4/3/14 at 9:38 am to
quote:

always grew up with outboards and was told never to get an inboard. does this still hold true?


Really depends on type of boating, boat, and location
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looking at a Larson and a Bayliner


be forewarned, you get what you pay for


quote:

any negotiating tactics when it comes to boats?


just remember its harder for them to sell a boat, then it is for you to purchase, you have the upper hand.
This post was edited on 4/3/14 at 9:40 am
Posted by DonChowder
Sonoma County
Member since Dec 2012
9249 posts
Posted on 4/3/14 at 9:48 am to
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purchasing first boat and need some advice




Kidding. Maintenance is everything. If you spend the time and money to maintain your vessel it will give you lots of fun times. If you're lax about it...then the above picture will hold true.
Posted by OntarioTiger
Canada
Member since Nov 2007
2118 posts
Posted on 4/3/14 at 9:51 am to
I live on freshwater and back in the day I/Os had some advantages but today w/ 4 stokes and oil injection etc I wouldn’t touch an I/O – has long as the O/B is Yamaha, Honda, Suzuki you are probably good to go. My dad had an i/o for years but the last 2 boats we have bought have been O/Bs – really don’t see many new I/Os most are 5+ yrs old

My dad had a larson i/o - a very solid hull it lasted 20 yrs in freshwater, hull was fine but motor went on i/o and time to get rid of boat, had it been an O/B maybe you hang a new one on. Bayliner - WNHI
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
38968 posts
Posted on 4/3/14 at 10:03 am to
Don't buy a fricking Bayliner. TPOS. I've owned one, well my dad bought it.

I'd get an outboard. You can unbolt it and swap it for a similar year used motor and it saves you from dumping money into the existing one. Outboards have issues as well for skiing, the rope always wants to tear the fuel line off of the motor, and you have the clear the housing to go outside the wake. I'd still take that over an I/O. A true inboard like a Mastercraft is a different story. I'd rock that all day.

ETA: think about getting something that you could drag over here to Bay St Louis and take the kids out to Ship or Cat Islands on calm days. Not easy to find a river and bay boat mix, but they'd absolutely love getting out there. All boats are compromises of some sort, so it won't be perfect for both. Just a thought.
This post was edited on 4/3/14 at 10:17 am
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 4/3/14 at 10:20 am to
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Larson and a Bayliner
Would not consider. Get a better, slightly used boat
Posted by mandevilletiger34
Member since Dec 2010
863 posts
Posted on 4/3/14 at 10:35 am to
would I do better going to a local dealer or finding something off of craigslist?

Posted by MillerMan
West U, Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2010
6512 posts
Posted on 4/3/14 at 10:37 am to
Get a Cobalt
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
7685 posts
Posted on 4/3/14 at 10:39 am to
Stay away from a dealer buying used. Shop around from private individuals and when you find what you want bring it in and pay to have dealer do compression test, etc... Will save you money on dealer mark up and can still get peace of mind knowing its a sound motor. Good luck man
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 4/3/14 at 10:42 am to
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would I do better going to a local dealer or finding something off of craigslist?


With personal sale on used boats you have a very big advantage in buying. much better deals to be had, just have to have a realistic seller. Which can be a problem sometimes.

With a dealer, more than likely its been cleaned and serviced recently, but dealers are adept at hiding issues as well.

pick your poison. but Id start in the personal sale market first


Craigslist, boat trader, local forums(LA sportsman), craigslist etc..
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5511 posts
Posted on 4/3/14 at 10:43 am to
If you're looking at a ski boat, get an inboard. It's hard to get into every reason why, but for skiing, wakeboarding, wakeskating, etc they're just better. Plus you can wakesurf, which is the funniest thing ever. Malibu's ride series, Axis, Moomba, and some Tiges are fairly affordable inboards. You may be able to find a used Mastercraft or Nautique for a decent price. The 2005-2007 super air 210 Nautiques are my favorite wakeboarding boats ever produced.

If you want something you can fish out of, get a center console with an outboard.

Eta: yeah. Do not but an I/O. Complete waste of your money. They're not what they used to be.
This post was edited on 4/3/14 at 10:47 am
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
7685 posts
Posted on 4/3/14 at 10:52 am to
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Malibu's


I thought these were high? I believe this is what my buddy bought and it was 80 new and he dropped another 25 on it before he even brought it home.
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5511 posts
Posted on 4/3/14 at 10:56 am to
The Wakesetters are very high. 80 is on the low end. Their ride series just came out two years ago. It's a more price point line of boats with different drive systems that still have Malibu's name. They're great boats though.

OP are you getting this boat for Tchefuncte?
This post was edited on 4/3/14 at 10:57 am
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
7685 posts
Posted on 4/3/14 at 10:57 am to
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5511 posts
Posted on 4/3/14 at 11:01 am to
If you wanna go really price point, you can just do what I did to my boat.

Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 4/3/14 at 11:14 am to
Next project....... Tuna tower
Posted by mandevilletiger34
Member since Dec 2010
863 posts
Posted on 4/3/14 at 11:56 am to
I'm looking to stay in the 5-10k range.
Will mostly be used in the Tchefuncte and Lake P. Mainly as a family fun boat with an occasional fishing trip to the causeway with the kids.

As much as I love the thought of being able to go fishing, I really think when it comes down to it...I will really be using it to just make a spur of the moment trip with the wife and kids to the river in between weekend sports and family obligations!
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