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Charles Koch in the WSJ
Posted on 4/2/14 at 7:34 pm
Posted on 4/2/14 at 7:34 pm
LINK
No wonder liberals hate him so much.
Free society vs authoritarian control(Obamunism)
Wake up amurica
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Instead of encouraging free and open debate, collectivists strive to discredit and intimidate opponents. They engage in character assassination. (I should know, as the almost daily target of their attacks.) This is the approach that Arthur Schopenhauer described in the 19th century, that Saul Alinsky famously advocated in the 20th, and that so many despots have infamously practiced. Such tactics are the antithesis of what is required for a free society—and a telltale sign that the collectivists do not have good answers
No wonder liberals hate him so much.
Free society vs authoritarian control(Obamunism)
Wake up amurica
This post was edited on 4/2/14 at 9:14 pm
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Posted on 4/2/14 at 7:40 pm to Da Sheik
Wow, a whole article of racist code words.
Posted on 4/2/14 at 8:03 pm to Da Sheik
Why does Mary Landrieu hate him so??
What is it Ms. Landrieu about the ideas Koch stand for that you hate so much!!
What is it Ms. Landrieu about the ideas Koch stand for that you hate so much!!
Posted on 4/2/14 at 8:11 pm to I B Freeman
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Why does Mary Landrieu hate him so?
Because he's Right. And right.
Posted on 4/2/14 at 8:15 pm to DaGarun
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Because he's Right
at someone's political OPINION being "right" and someone else's "wrong" I don't dislike Koch's methods any more then George Soros', but we need to get money out of politics as much as we can or the republic will cease to be by of and for the people (if it hasn't already lost that characteristic anyway).
Posted on 4/2/14 at 8:17 pm to I B Freeman
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Why does Mary Landrieu hate him so??
Same reason all libs hate proponents of conservative principles...if there are too many free-thinking, hard-working americans who don't rely on the gubment, the libs of today are out of a job tomorrow.
Posted on 4/2/14 at 8:23 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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but we need to get money out of politics as much as we can or the republic will cease to be by of and for the people (if it hasn't already lost that characteristic anyway).
I disagree. Money will always be in politics and only when we do things like finance campaign laws do we make it corrupt. It should simply be absolutely transparent with no limits.
After those campaign finance laws went into effect it just made those PACs so popular and hid the money.
Posted on 4/2/14 at 8:27 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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we need to get money out of politics as much as we can or the republic will cease to be by of and for the people
Are the contributions coming from robots?
Who makes up corporations?
Posted on 4/2/14 at 8:28 pm to I B Freeman
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only when we do things like finance campaign laws do we make it corrupt
there are these things called jails
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It should simply be absolutely transparent with no limits.
With no limits to spending then person A can buy all the "speech" he wants, effectively drowning out the speech of everyone else around him who can't buy that much "speech". It gives him unequal access and favor and makes his vote inherently more valuable than anyone else's. If you think that that's a good thing then I guess that's you're right but to me it will create an oligarchic class that will result in a very small number of people holding the vast majority of political power. The republic will essentially be dead.
It's already been happening for awhile but it's going to speed up big time in the coming years between Citizens United and this decision today. Dark days indeed.
This post was edited on 4/2/14 at 8:29 pm
Posted on 4/2/14 at 8:31 pm to weagle99
Mark Begich ads tarhet the Koch Bros, which show how far out of touch the DC people making his ads are with Alaska. No one here gives a shite.
Posted on 4/2/14 at 8:31 pm to weagle99
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Are the contributions coming from robots?
Yes, which I always renew my robot policy with Old Glory insurance.
Posted on 4/2/14 at 8:31 pm to Draconian Sanctions
The kochs don't want to spend money on politics, they've said as such many times.. They do it because the system in place requires them. They would rather allow the market to declare winners and losers and it's why they fight to minimize the power structure with the government
This post was edited on 4/2/14 at 8:37 pm
Posted on 4/2/14 at 8:32 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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With no limits to spending then person A can buy all the "speech" he wants, effectively drowning out the speech of everyone else around him who can't buy that much "speech".
So to fix this, Fedgov restricts person A's speech.
Brilliant
Posted on 4/2/14 at 8:33 pm to Rickety Cricket
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Yes, which I always renew my robot policy with Old Glory insurance.
Because they're strong and made of metal.
Posted on 4/2/14 at 8:33 pm to jamboybarry
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So to fix this, Fedgov restricts person A's speech.
Brilliant
No, to fix this Fedgov ensures that your speech can't be drowned out by someone else's speech, which is effectively restricting YOUR speech.
Posted on 4/2/14 at 8:34 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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No, to fix this Fedgov ensures that your speech can't be drowned out by someone else's speech, which is effectively restricting YOUR speech.
by restricting someone else's speechPosted on 4/2/14 at 8:34 pm to Draconian Sanctions
here's a hint champ...if there is not as much power at fedgov, they won't spend the money there.
your solution is akin to trying to stop drug deals by removing money from society. It doesn't stop any of the backdoor bullshite.
either you're exceedingly naive, or stupid.
your solution is akin to trying to stop drug deals by removing money from society. It doesn't stop any of the backdoor bullshite.
either you're exceedingly naive, or stupid.
Posted on 4/2/14 at 8:34 pm to Draconian Sanctions
So, you are of the opinion it's ok to restrict some speech so your speech can be heard?
Posted on 4/2/14 at 8:35 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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So, you are of the opinion it's ok to restrict some speech so your speech can be heard?
it's ok to ensure that everyone gets a chance to speak and have their voice heard.
Posted on 4/2/14 at 8:36 pm to CptBengal
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It doesn't stop any of the backdoor bullshite.
i never said that it would, but frick at least make it illegal. then there's some deterrent.
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