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GOP Hawks Worry Rand Paul Has Too Much Ron

Posted on 3/31/14 at 8:00 am
Posted by RollTide4Ever
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 8:00 am
Oh boy......

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GOP Hawks Worry Rand Paul Has Too Much Ron

Zeke J Miller
March 31, 2014

A group of Republican donors is pledging to stop the tea party favorite from winning the 2016 presidential nomination because of his more non-interventionist views on foreign policy

LAS VEGAS—Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul is hard at work laying the groundwork for an almost-certain presidential campaign in 2016, but as he broadens his support among libertarian and younger voters, there’s a budding counter-campaign to take him down if he becomes a threat to actually win the nomination.

At the Republican Jewish Coalition meeting in Las Vegas this weekend, Paul was nowhere to be found, but his presence was felt in the form of a straw man—and frequent worry. Speaker after speaker, from former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush to New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, laid into Paul’s more isolationist views on foreign policy beliefs. They never mentioned the lawmaker by name, but the message came across loud and clear.

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On the margins of the conference, where attendees heard from four potential 2016 candidates who advocated for a strong American foreign policy and support for Israel, five donors huddled with a reporter pledged to reach into their deep pockets to ensure Paul doesn’t win the GOP nomination.

“The best thing that could happen is Ted Cruz and Rand Paul run and steal each others’ support,” said one of the donors, “but if not, we’ll be ready to take Paul down.”

Several prominent GOP donors at the conference suggested that Adelson, who spent more than $100 million backing Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney in 2012, is likely to spend vast sums against Paul if he appears to be well positioned in the Republican primaries. Adelson’s spending is largely motivated by his strong concern for Israel, and Paul’s positions are may well put a target on his back.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 8:05 am to
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A group of Republican donors is pledging to stop the tea party favorite from winning the 2016 presidential nomination


Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 8:06 am to
They would rather have Hillary than Paul...
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80160 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 8:12 am to
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They would rather have Hillary than Paul...


I've called it for months, along with some other semi intelligent people on here... The GOP will destroy Paul in the primaries and push another shitty candidate to the top, who will then lose in the GE
This post was edited on 3/31/14 at 8:13 am
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
20876 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 8:13 am to
Paul should scare the GOP establishment.

The fact that anyone would spend millions to change an election over Israel is insane.
This post was edited on 3/31/14 at 8:15 am
Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 8:18 am to
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At the Republican Jewish Coalition meeting in Las Vegas


it's called pandering. 99% of it is talk
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27072 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 8:28 am to
This fight will be won or lost on semantics. If Rand can get people using the term "non-interventionist" he has a great shot. If his opponents successfully brand him as "isolationist" he is likely in trouble.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 8:30 am to
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They would rather have Hillary than Paul...

Recently I read an article at the American Conservative that predicted the neocon portion of the Republican establishment would endorse Hillary if Paul were the nominee, and with Hillary getting more neocon everyday, I can see this happening.

EDIT: Last week Chris Matthews said that he's worried about where Hillary going with her recent foreign policy speeches, and this morning Joe Scarborough said that she's even too hawkish for him.
This post was edited on 3/31/14 at 8:34 am
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90653 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 8:40 am to
Paul needs to excite a huge grassroots movement to win. He needs to get funding from that... Everyday Americans sending him small donations. There are big money guys who will try to bring him down through outspending to get someone in office to protect their own interests rather than the nations best interests. I hope people realize that the current democrat and republican parties are a cancer to this country and we need someone like paul to change it
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 8:43 am to
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This fight will be won or lost on semantics. If Rand can get people using the term "non-interventionist" he has a great shot. If his opponents successfully brand him as "isolationist" he is likely in trouble.

Jennifer Rubin is already comparing him to Charles Lindbergh, so the Neville Chamberlain comparisons can't be too far behind.

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Posted by CherryGarciaMan
Sugar Magnolia
Member since Aug 2012
2497 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 8:47 am to
I watched Morning Joe today, and every single panelist wore a feathered fedora and pimped Jeb Bush.
Joe admitted that the big money GOP did not support Paul.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78666 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 9:00 am to
I have a feeling Rand Paul is going to overwhelm The Republican Establishment in the primaries, and not vice versa. I just have that gut feeling .

Posted by monsterballads
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Member since Jun 2013
29267 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 9:02 am to
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isolationist views on foreign policy beliefs.


Posted by Asgard Device
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Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 9:14 am to
Is that a bad thing?

I'm left of 90% of this board and both Ron and Rand Paul would get my vote over most Democrats.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 9:18 am to
The Democratic establishment has as much contempt for its base as the Republican establishment does, as evidenced by its attempt to coronate Hillary two years before the primaries even start.
Posted by Paluka
One State Over
Member since Dec 2010
10763 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 11:05 am to
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I have a feeling Rand Paul is going to overwhelm The Republican Establishment in the primaries, and not vice versa. I just have that gut feeling .


I sure hope so. It's time for these elitist assholes (Rep and Dem) to get out of the way.
Posted by Rickety Cricket
Premium Member
Member since Aug 2007
46883 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 11:35 am to
And it begins. The GOP will cannibalize it's best candidate for 2016.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55494 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 11:41 am to
I hope he has more Ron than I give him credit for.
Posted by CherryGarciaMan
Sugar Magnolia
Member since Aug 2012
2497 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 11:41 am to
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Posted by Message Asgard Device GOP Hawks Worry Rand Paul Has Too Much Ron Is that a bad thing? I'm left of 90% of this board and both Ron and Rand Paul would get my vote over most Democrats.



That'll be the interesting aspect of this election, should Paul become the nominee.

He'll be able to run to both the left and right of Hillary and that would be an amazing thing to witness.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 11:42 am to
yea, its funny. a lot of his supporters are worried he doesn't have enough Ron.

Thanks for the endorsement, establishment GOP
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