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Harden the 1st guard since Jordan in 87-88..

Posted on 3/26/14 at 9:32 am
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 9:32 am
to lead all guards in both PPG and True Shooting % (>1000 mins, >15 ppg)



bow down
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 9:33 am to
He just flops though
Posted by 504Voodoo
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2012
13533 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 9:35 am to
Let's see what happens when he doesn't get those bailout calls come playoff time.
Posted by 504Voodoo
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2012
13533 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 9:35 am to
Let's see what happens when he doesn't get those bailout calls come playoff time.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27875 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 9:35 am to
No one says he just flops. They also say he doesn't play defense.
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 9:36 am to
Pretty good for a gay homosexual
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59695 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 9:38 am to
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"He’s an amazing player,” Bobcats center Al Jefferson said. “Best one-on-one player in the game.”


quote:

James Harden is the ONLY guard in NBA history to average at least 24.8 ppg while shooting at least .616 TS%


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Harden currently leads all SG in assists per game


someone bump the trade thread
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 9:40 am to
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 9:46 am to
Uh yeah, there are people on the board and Pelicans talk who say that. Actually someone just mentioned bailout calls
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32482 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 9:49 am to
2 of 9 from the field, 27 points...
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59695 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 9:50 am to
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Let's see what happens when he doesn't get those bailout calls come playoff time.


I guess we'll have to see him make more step back 3s, poor rockets fans.
Posted by MillerMan
West U, Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2010
6512 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 10:05 am to
I love this

Posted by Louie T
htx
Member since Dec 2006
36317 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 10:10 am to
It's uncanny how often you pop into Pelicans threads to dump on Davis, yet continually get bothered when people don't cream themselves over Harden.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79168 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 10:10 am to
flopper;dr


What a great pickup for Morey
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59695 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 10:16 am to
What's uncanny about it? When Davis does something that hasn't been done by anyone since Jordan in the late 80s let me know ok buddy?
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 10:19 am to
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Actually someone just mentioned bailout calls


That's understandable simply because he seems so much better at it than everyone else. He has a conspicuously high Free Throw Rate (FT attempts per FG attempt) of .521. The only starting level guards/wings that are close to that are MKG at .515, who doesn't shoot much because he can't, and Ty Lawson at .486. Everyone else close or better is a big or a non starter. LINK

Seriously, look at the list and sort it by FTr, Harden is quite unusual for a starting guard when it comes to getting free throws. There are many players with similar profiles in terms of Jumpers vs. Close and Assisted vs. Unassisted shots. I browsed through 82games.com looking for guys shooting at least 25%-30% Close and the rest Jumpers, and around a 30% or less assisted rate meaning they create most of their own shots meaning they are more likely to get fouled than in a catch and shoot situation. The list of comparables I came up with was:

James Harden .521
Ty Lawson .486
Eric Bledsoe .428
Goran Dragic .399
Monta Ellis .357
Tyreke Evans .354
Rudy Gay .318
Brandon Jennings .290
Tony Parker .282
Kyrie Irving .270
Mike Conley .268

There are some pretty big names on this list, so I don't think you can chalk it all up to "getting calls", but like I said, he is very far ahead of the competition. I also find it interesting that Jeremy Lin is pretty high up the list with a FTr of .426. Does Houston do anything in particular to game plan the officiating?
Posted by Spelt it rong
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
10023 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 10:21 am to
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When Davis does something that hasn't been done by anyone since Jordan in the late 80s let me know ok buddy?


How many times did Jordan get 40 points and 20+ rebounds in a game?

How many times did he average 20 ppg 10 rpg 3 bpg and 1-2 apg?

How many times did Jordan play PF or C?

"Boomshockalocka"
This post was edited on 3/26/14 at 10:22 am
Posted by MillerMan
West U, Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2010
6512 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 10:22 am to
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mpetition. I also find it interesting that Jeremy Lin is pretty high up the list with a FTr of .426.


Go hard in the paint
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59695 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 10:24 am to
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I also find it interesting that Jeremy Lin is pretty high up the list with a FTr of .426. Does Houston do anything in particular to game plan the officiating?


Not that I know of but I know that Morey is really big on FTR. I remember it being talked about as one the main reasons Houston was interested in Lowry back when they acquired him. So it's probably more Houston targeting players who get to the line than anything to do with game planning officiating.
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10324 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 10:25 am to
I'll take Dwayne Wade's 19.3 PPG on .546 FG% in 33.6 minutes over Harden's 24.9 PPG and .462 FG% in 38.1 minutes.
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