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Police Stingray Tech: Remember, the State Protects Your Privacy

Posted on 3/23/14 at 11:48 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421612 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 11:48 am
Governments refuse to disclose details about privacy-invading technology

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Police across the country may be intercepting phone calls or text messages to find suspects using a technology tool known as Stingray. But they're refusing to turn over details about its use or heavily censoring files when they do.

Police say Stingray, a suitcase-size device that pretends it's a cell tower, is useful for catching criminals, but that's about all they'll say.

For example, they won't disclose details about contracts with the device's manufacturer, Harris Corp., insisting they are protecting both police tactics and commercial secrets. The secrecy - at times imposed by nondisclosure agreements signed by police - is pitting obligations under private contracts against government transparency laws.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 11:55 am to
The level of "secrecy" that Gov keeps on and FROM its citizens is disturbing.


It should be an extremely difficult thing to keep ANY info "secret" from the people.


Certainly, I recognize that there really are legitimate reasons...but, it should require a tremendous effort to make that case.
Posted by wilfont
Gulfport, MS on a Jet Ski
Member since Apr 2007
14860 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 11:57 am to

Wonder how they limit the frequency to just calls from criminals. Perhaps they view us all as potential criminals.

Posted by CherryGarciaMan
Sugar Magnolia
Member since Aug 2012
2497 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 11:58 am to
The word secrecy is repugnant in a free and just society
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421612 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 12:00 pm to
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The word secrecy is repugnant in a free and just society

lol i just made a new twitter account and that may be the new tag line
Posted by Paluka
One State Over
Member since Dec 2010
10763 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 12:00 pm to
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Certainly, I recognize that there really are legitimate reasons...but, it should require a tremendous effort to make that case.


Patriot Act really let the genie out of the bottle. It's going to take a lot to get the genie back in (if possible). From the NSA to this and more.
Posted by SundayFunday
Member since Sep 2011
9298 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 12:03 pm to
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Wonder how they limit the frequency to just calls from criminals. Perhaps they view us all as potential criminals.




Sounds like probably cause to me. "You could possible commit a crime so you are guilty enough to lose your rights.."
Posted by CherryGarciaMan
Sugar Magnolia
Member since Aug 2012
2497 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 12:09 pm to
Well don't quote me.

It was JFK
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
12420 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 12:09 pm to
Start with the illegal dwi checkpoints, then move to these electronic issues. Protect the fourth amendment.
Posted by Rickety Cricket
Premium Member
Member since Aug 2007
46883 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 12:48 pm to
So I assume they will make arrests with evidence gathered pursuant to this illicit surveillance... I wonder how much hell they will give the defense counsel when information on the surveillance is requested?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421612 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 10:11 pm to
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So I assume they will make arrests with evidence gathered pursuant to this illicit surveillance... I wonder how much hell they will give the defense counsel when information on the surveillance is requested?

Let's ask Decatur, the expert
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 11:34 pm to
The PD won't even acknowledge they have the secret suitcase device.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64954 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 11:39 pm to
quote:

The word secrecy is repugnant in a free and just society



I agree. The whole world should know our capabilities and how to get around them!

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259906 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 11:47 pm to
quote:


Certainly, I recognize that there really are legitimate reasons...but, it should require a tremendous effort to make that case.



I think it's a waste to even complain about the loss of privacy anymore. I just assume every phone call and email, as well as browsing history is sitting in some data bank somewhere.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421612 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 8:09 am to
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The whole world should know our capabilities and how to get around them!

this is about domestic policing spying on citizens
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51475 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 9:30 am to
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Wonder how they limit the frequency to just calls from criminals.


They just hit the button labelled "criminal calls only". Duh!
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73417 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 9:34 am to
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Let's ask Decatur, the expert
He is fapping over this.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84831 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 9:41 am to
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92876 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 11:06 am to
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I think it's a waste to even complain about the loss of privacy anymore. I just assume every phone call and email, as well as browsing history is sitting in some data bank somewhere.



There is no need to assume, there are laws requiring providers to keep all of this info.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89480 posts
Posted on 3/29/14 at 9:02 am to
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It was JFK


The last great liberal.
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