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How do you keep that edge?

Posted on 3/22/14 at 10:58 am
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 3/22/14 at 10:58 am
The knife thread got me to thinking that you can have a really good knife, but if you can't maintain an edge, it's useless, and quite dangerous.

What's your go to method for sharpening, honing, and keeping the edge on your knives?

Outside sharpening service?
Tri stone oil system and honer?
Grinder tool and honer?
Electric or manual slotted system and honer?
My knives are dull and I have digits to spare?
Other?








This post was edited on 3/22/14 at 11:06 am
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 3/22/14 at 12:31 pm to
1. Throw your dull knife away. It cannot be sharpened to like new status.

2. Buy a new knife and a steel. Use the steel every time you cook... 6 or 7 strokes on each side. Takes only a few seconds.

This is a steel...

This post was edited on 3/22/14 at 12:32 pm
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 3/22/14 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

1. Throw your dull knife away. It cannot be sharpened to like new status.



This just isn't true.

If you throw away a $200 knife because it's dull, then you are worse than the OP of the marinating steaks thread (am I right OP of this thread )

If you can't sharpen it like new, you can bring to to a place that can.


OP, I use a tri-stone. It works great and inbetween I use a steel.

Posted by Zach
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Posted on 3/22/14 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

This just isn't true.

Yes it is true. Your turn.

quote:

If you throw away a $200 knife because it's dull,


Who in the hell buys a $200 knife? You can get a terrific Henckle or Wusthoff for less than 100.
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
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Posted on 3/22/14 at 12:38 pm to
Wet stones of varying coarseness
Ceramic honing rod
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 3/22/14 at 12:39 pm to
quote:

This just isn't true.


I agree, this isn't true, even though this has nothing to do with marinating steaks,

quote:

OP, I use a tri-stone. It works great and inbetween I use a steel.


I do as well. It's a good one. See, we do have things we can agree upon.

Posted by CITWTT
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Posted on 3/22/14 at 12:41 pm to
Honing with each use or a start, a tri-stone sharpener every so often are what I am accustomed to using. I can keep an edge on a knife that allow you to test it for sharpness by shaving the hair on your arm. At the moment though it sounds like you need a pro to get it back to that state of being. I must whole-heartedly dis-agree with Zach on this one. One bit of advice to include is buying some carbon steel knives to have on hand over stainless models, they are the easiest to sharpen.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 3/22/14 at 12:54 pm to
I've taken poorly maintained or abused knives back from the abyss before, but I'll tell you it did take some work and patience. Factory edges are usually not very sharp in my experience with the newer knife purchases I've made, but they are cut to the right angle. Depending on the knife I'm sure, perhaps it's best to take it directly to a professional to get it sharpened proper. and then maintain with honer, as was already said. I know I got a Sabatier in not too long ago that came in very dull, and I couldn't figure out the reasoning behind that, be that a desire for people to get their own blade on it or a safety/legal concern.
Posted by CITWTT
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Posted on 3/22/14 at 12:59 pm to
Getting the Sabatier sharp will not take too much effort at all.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 3/22/14 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

Getting the Sabatier sharp will not take too much effort at all.


Considering the investment, didn't want to chance it with novice knife sharpening skills. I was just surprised it came in with such a dull blade.

Posted by 82fumanchu
Saskatchewan
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 3/22/14 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

Throw your dull knife away. It cannot be sharpened to like new status


I ain't buying. If they get too bad you can always go to this...



or the tristone.

But yeah when your blades are good just use the steel every use for maintenance and they'll be good forever.
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 3/22/14 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

Yes it is true. Your turn


I retired from debating you in 2008.

Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 3/22/14 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

, we do have things we can agree upon.


I didn't say we never agree, I was trying to get that thread back on topic. It turned to an OT thread, and I guess you didn't get the joke as I wa...

not worth it.
Posted by oldcharlie8
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Posted on 3/22/14 at 2:16 pm to
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112410 posts
Posted on 3/22/14 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

I retired from debating you in 2008

Well, it's time to come on back, my friend.
Seriously, this has been my experience with knives:

a. grinder... 6 years: didn't work
b. whet stone...10 years: didn't work
c. steel....2 years now and sharp as the first day. I must admit that it wasn't my idea. My son is a hunter, ex-Marine and blade expert. He taught me about the steel. It seemed too easy but it works.
Posted by SuzukiGoat
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Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 3/22/14 at 5:38 pm to
I made a small carbon steel knife in the shop. Got thr sngle right with s file, polished eith sandpaper, a few passes on a stone.... and then


50 passes or so on an el cheapo harbor freight ceramic sharpener. It, and my old buck fixed blade, are my go to knives for meat.

For veg...eh, mandolin or cheap cermic knife.


If Im truly in a hurry Ill grab a knife from the block and do it properly, using the steel first...but honestly... I prefer the thicker metal only fixed blade knives.


Please excuse typos...phinr is going crazy
This post was edited on 3/22/14 at 5:40 pm
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 3/22/14 at 8:30 pm to
quote:

1. Throw your dull knife away. It cannot be sharpened to like new status.

Are you joking? So fricking wrong.
Posted by Geaux-2-L-O-Miss
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Member since Aug 2005
3425 posts
Posted on 3/22/14 at 8:33 pm to
quote:

If you throw away a $200 knife because it's dull, then you are worse than the OP of the marinating steaks thread (am I right OP of this thread )


Glad to know my thread is inside your head. The steak was OK but I don't plan on doing that again. It was worth a try.

Back on topic, I use the sharpener built into my knife block. While it is not the best method it is easy and keeps the blade from getting dull.
Posted by MeridianDog
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Member since Nov 2010
14158 posts
Posted on 3/22/14 at 8:52 pm to
I have two stones, a ceramic stick and a steel. I always use the steel, maybe the ceramic stick and hardly ever need the stone, which I have for my wood chisels.

If a knife was ever sharp, I can sharpen it to a level you can shave with.

I agree with the poster who said you need at least one carbon steel knife. I have two boning knives, but by far the better one is the carbon steel knife - 45 year old Chicago Cutlery carbon steel boner. My mom has the same knife except hers is over 60 years old.

I can put a shaving edge on it with a file if needed.
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