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re: Max the 401K vs Roth

Posted on 3/20/14 at 8:26 am to
Posted by Oenophile Brah
The Edge of Sanity
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 8:26 am to
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I say max the Roth now while you can because once you're done with residency and making the big bucks you'll probably be ineligible to contribute to the Roth.

I agree, but with one thing to add. I would suggest not creating or contributing to a regular IRA. Once your income exceeds the Roth limit, you can do the backdoor Roth rollover. However, if you have an existing IRA you would pay taxes on any IRA accounts you might have.

That's my understanding of that process.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:48 am to
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But you may be right - had counted on those Roth distributions to be tax free when I am an old man.


just remember SS went untaxed at one point.

it was that "conservative" reagan that did it.
Posted by MDTiger 13
Fairhope, AL
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 10:01 am to
How does the backdoor Roth rollover work?
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 10:12 am to
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How does the backdoor Roth rollover work?


high earners that can't get a roth contribution, convert their traditional IRA to roth. So they can make a traditional IRA contribution (taxed) and then "convert" it to a roth.

this only works if you don't have an existing traditional IRA. If you have 100k+ in traditional IRAs, you get taxed on the 100k+ when you do it and its painful.

Pretty much when you get to be a high earner, you lose these retirement niceities.

but of course, you are making $200k a year to hit that and should you complain too much?
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 12:13 pm to
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just remember SS went untaxed at one point


There is a slight difference between a Roth and SS.

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it was that "conservative" reagan that did it

Okay?
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51893 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 12:43 pm to
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this only works if you don't have an existing traditional IRA. If you have 100k+ in traditional IRAs, you get taxed on the 100k+ when you do it and its painful.



This in incorrect.


You can do partial rollovers to spread the tax liability (or tax exposure). It isn't a all or nothing deal.
This post was edited on 3/20/14 at 12:44 pm
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 1:09 pm to
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This in incorrect.


You can do partial rollovers to spread the tax liability (or tax exposure). It isn't a all or nothing deal.

when I talked to my financial advisor, he told me what the bill would be and I had sticker shock.
Posted by Oenophile Brah
The Edge of Sanity
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 1:42 pm to
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You can do partial rollovers to spread the tax liability (or tax exposure). It isn't a all or nothing deal.

I don't think that's accurate with backdoor Roth's. All IRA money is taxed in that process.
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